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Unidentified Speaker
A LOOK AT HOW YOUR TAX DOLLARS ARE AT WORK IN DIFFERENT FEDERAL AGENCIES. TODAY WE ARE FOCUSING ON THE BUREAU OF ALCOHOL, TOBACCO, FIREARMS, AND EXPLOSIVES....
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Unidentified Speaker
ONE OF THE LONGEST NAMES. ESSENTIALLY, IT IS AN AGENCY STARTED IN THE 1970'S FROM DIFFERENT FEDERAL AGENCIES INCLUDING ONE THAT DEALT WITH THE REGULATION...
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HOST
ON THE 80TH AND ITS BUDGET. THE 2011 BUDGET WAS $1.1 BILLION. THIS AGENCY HAS SEEN ITS NAME CHANGE OVER THE YEARS AS ITS MISSION HAS CHANGED. WE ALWAYS...
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GUEST
THE EXPLOSIVES CAME ABOUT BECAUSE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT NEEDED A SPECIALIZED AGENCY TO LOOK AT WHENEVER THERE WAS A BOMBING OR ANY KIND OF CRIME INVOLVING...
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CALLER:HOST
9/11? GUEST:
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GUEST
NO. IT WAS AFTER SUCH THINGS AS THE MORAL BUILDING -- MORROW BUILDING BOMBING EARLIER. HOST:
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HOST
TALK ABOUT THE STRUCTURE OF ATF AND WHERE IT'S IT'S WITHIN THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT? TALK ABOUT SOME DUPLICATION OF EFFORTS WITH THE FBI. ABOUT HIS LEADERSHIP...
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GUEST
SOME SEVERE PROBLEMS IN THE LAST FEW YEARS BEING ABLE TO ADAPT AND ATF DIRECTOR CONFIRMED. IN 2006 -- IT HAS ALWAYS HAD A TIP ON ITS SHOULDER WITH RESPECT...
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HOST
IN THIS SEGMENT OF THE WASHINGTON JOURNAL, FOCUSING ON THE ATF. CALLS ARE OPEN -- PHONE LINES ARE OPEN FOR YOUR CALLS. GEORGE'S WAITING FROM OHIO ON...
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CALLER
GOOD MORNING. THIS IS ABOUT CONTROL. I'VE UNDERSTAND THERE'S A PRODUCT CALLED SSAR-15 THAT ENABLES A SEMI-AUTOMATIC GUN TO CONVERTED TO AN AUTOMATIC...
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GUEST
GUEST: YOU ARE GETTING INTO SOME TECHNICALITIES OF THE ATF'S REGULATORY POWER. ONE OF THE THINGS THEY CONSTANTLY FACE IS THE ISSUE OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT...
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HOST
TALK ABOUT THE REGULATORY ROLE OF ATF. HERE ARE SOME STATISTICS ON CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS IN 2011. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT 27TH THOUSAND CASES, WHAT IS ATF...
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GUEST
POWER TO GO INTO A FIRE ARMS DEALERS, INTO THE STORES, AND TO TAKE A LOOK. THEY DO PERIODIC INSPECTIONS OF THEIR INVENTORY TO MAKE SURE FIREARMS ARE...
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HOST
THE LINE. CALLER: I HAVE A QUESTION
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CALLER
ON THE ALCOHOL SIDE OF THINGS. WHEN A DISTILLER MANUFACTURERS FROM IN PUERTO RICO OR BOURBON IN KENTUCKY, DOES THE ATF COLLECT A TAX ON THAT FIFTH OF...
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GUEST
GUEST: I DO NOT. THERE IS A SMALL PORTION OF THE REGULATORY POWER ON ALCOHOL BUT STILL REMAINS AT THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT. I BELIEVE THE MONEY GOES TO...
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HOST
ATF'S WEBSITE--
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GUEST
GUEST: RIGHT. HOST: MIKE IS ON OUR
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HOST
INDEPENDENT LINE IN HOUSTON, TEXAS.
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CALLER
CALLER: GOOD MORNING. I HAD THE GOOD FORTUNE OF CARRYING A VERY WISE WOMAN, SO I AM THE LUCKIEST MAN IN THE WORLD. MY WIFE POINTED OUT THAT NO ONE WITH...
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HOST
ARE:THE ATF. CALLER: THESE JOKERS, IF
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CALLER
THEY'D JUST DID 10 INSPECTIONS BURMA, THEY COULD, STATISTICALLY, 5 TIMES THE INSPECTIONS OF THESE DEALERS. HOST: IS THAT SOMETHING
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HOST
THE ATF CAN DO WITH THEIR CURRENT MANPOWER? TALK ABOUT THEIR BUDGET AND MANPOWER. GUEST: ONE OF THE
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GUEST
COMPLAINTS THEY HAVE IS THAT THEIR BUDGET HAS BEEN SORT OF STATIC. YOU HAVE -- THEY HAVE NOT GROWN VERY MUCH IN RECENT YEARS. HOST:
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HOST
DEBATES THE THE BIG INCREASES A LOT OF OTHER AGENCIES SOUGHT AFTER 9/11? GUEST: WE HAVE SEEN SOME
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GUEST
SINCE THE 9/11 ATTACKS. SINCE 2008 HAVE GONE 4200 EMPLOYEES TO JUST OVER 5000 AGENTS. SO THEY HAVE GOTTEN AN INCREASE. A $500 MILLION BUDGET AUTHORITY...
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HOST
WAS THEIR ROLE IN NEWTOWN? GUEST: THEY
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GUEST
WERE THERE IN NEWTOWN AND THEY WERE IN OR AFTER THE MASS SHOOTING THERE. HOST: WHAT WERE THEY THERE
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HOST
TO DO, INVESTIGATION? GUEST: IN THE CASE OF 04
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GUEST
OHAURORA, THEY SENT A ROBOT WITH A CAMERA TO CHECK OUT THE APARTMENT OF THE ALLEGED SHOOTER TO MAKE SURE IT DID NOT BLOW UP THE ENTIRE BUILDING. SO...
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HOST
TWITTER -- GUEST: THE FBI --
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GUEST
THERE'S A LOT OF CONFLICT THAT HAPPENS ON THESE SCENES. MORE THAN FIVE YEARS AGO THERE WERE INSTANCES WHERE THE ATF AGENTS AND THE FBI AGENTS AND WOULD...
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HOST
A CRIME? GUEST:
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GUEST
ESSENTIALLY. IT'S A LONG AND DIFFICULT HISTORY BETWEEN THE TWO. THEY SEEM TO BE WORKING A LOT BETTER TOGETHER IN RECENT YEARS. THE ISSUE WITH THE FBI...
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HOST
IN TENNESSEE ON THE DEMOCRATIC LINE. CALLER: GOOD
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CALLER
MORNING. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ROLE OF ATF. ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS , IF THE NRA WAS NOT LOADING UP THE HOUSE AND OTHER CONGRESS MEMBERS WITH MONEY...
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GUEST
NAIL ON THE HEAD. THE ISSUE WITH ATF IS THE ART -- THEY ARE AN AGENCY THAT CAUSES CONTROVERSY. THERE'S RESTRICTIONS IN THE LAW THAT GOVERNS HOW THE ATF...
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HOST
LEGISLATION SAYING THEY CANNOT DO THAT? GUEST:
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GUEST
THEY CANNOT DO THAT. THE CDC IS NOT ALL-LOWED TO STUDY GGUN CRIMES, SCIENTIFIC STANDPOINT, TO SEE WHICH PEOPLE PERHAPS ARE MORE PRONE TO SUFFER GUN...
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HOST
THERE'S ALSO RESTRICTIONS ON GUN INQUIRIES, ON TRYING TO TRACE A PACIFIC GONE BACK TO A SPECIFIC OWNER, THAT THE ATF DOES NOT HAVE A SYSTEM THEMSELVES,...
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GUEST
PRETTY OLD SYSTEM, ESPECIALLY THAT THEY ARE RELYING ON THE TRACING SYSTEM. THIS IS WHY IN THE INSPECTIONS PROCESSES THEY ARE VERY BIG ON PAPERWORK, BECAUSE...
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HOST
ON THE TABLE IN TERMS OF POSSIBLE RESPONSE FROM THE WHITE HOUSE THAT WE WILL SEEK? GUEST: IT IS ONE OF
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GUEST
THE THINGS THEY'RE TRYING TO DO THAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT. AGAIN, THESE ARE THINGS THAT CONGRESS IS PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE DIFFICULTY WITH, GIVEN THE...
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HOST
TALKING WITH THE WALL STREET JOURNAL JUSTICE DEPARTMENT REPORTER EVAN PRESS. NEXT GO TO RICHARD FROM LAKE PLACID, FLORIDA, ON OUR INDEPENDENT LINE....
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CALLER
FOR TAKING MY CALL. WHEN I THINK OF ATF, I THINK OF WACO AND FAST AND FURIOUS, BOTH OF THEM POWERFUL. THE REGULATION OF ALCOHOL AND FIREARMS SHOULD GO...
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HOST
HOW FAST AND FURIOUS AND WACO AND RUBY RIDGE BEFORE THAT HAVE COLORED HOW PEOPLE VIEW THE ATF. GUEST: IT IS
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GUEST
A PROBLEM THEY FACE. ANYTIME ANYBODY TALKS ABOUT GIVING THEM MORE AND MORE POWER. THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES THE VICE PRESIDENT'S'S TASK FORCE WILL ACTIVASE....
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HOST
UP THE LEADERSHIP ISSUE ARTT ATF,. THEY HAVE AN ACTING DIRECTOR WHO HAS TWO JOBS AND HE'S A U.S. ATTORNEY IN MINNESOTA. GUEST: JONES IS
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GUEST
A U.S. ATTORNEY IN MINNESOTA. WHAT WE CAN TELL FROM TALKING WITH PEOPLE IN CONGRESS AND THOSE PEOPLE ON THE STREETS DEALING WITH GUN ISSUES, HE SEEMS...
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HOST
OF FOLKS LOOKING AT THIS ISSUE OF AN ACTING DIRECTOR AND CALLING FOR CHANGES, THIS EDITORIAL FROM NEWSDAY -- PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS NOMINATED SOMEBODY...
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GUEST
GUEST: THAT'S RIGHT. ANDREW TRAVERS IS AN ATF CHIEF IN DENVER WHO IS DENOMINATED. THAT NOMINATION IS ESSENTIALLY WITHDRAWN NOW. NOW THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION...
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HOST
IS ON THE DEMOCRATIC LINE FROM KENTUCKY.
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CALLER
CALLER: YES. IF THE U.S. COULD INITIATE A BUYBACK PROGRAM ON THESE ASSAULT WEAPONS, GIVE THEM TO HOLDER, LET HIM SELL THEM TO THE MEXICAN DRUG CARTELS,...
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HOST
ABOUT ISSUES WITH A FAST AND FURIOUS. EXPLAIN WHAT THAT SITUATION HAS BEEN FOR FOLKS NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE INVESTIGATION. GUEST:
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GUEST
THERE WAS AN INVESTIGATION IN PHOENIX AT THE ATF OFFICE WHICH WAS FOCUSED ON TRYING TO FIND BIG WEAPONS TRAFFICKERS. A TERRIBLE IDEA THEY CAME UP WITH...
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HOST
TWITTER -- GUEST: I DON'T
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GUEST
KNOW THE NUMBER. THEY HAVE HAD MANY INCIDENTS WHICH HAVE CAUSED CONTROVERSY GOING BACK TO UBER RICH AND WACO AND SO ON. I CANNOT GIVE YOU A NUMBER, BUT...
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HOST
OF SUSPICION. GUEST: THERE'S
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GUEST
A LOT OF SUSPICION THAT ATF IS NOT UP TO PAR WHEN IT COMES TO DOING ITS. LAW ENFORCEMENT ITS HOST: FROM NAPLES,
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HOST
FLORIDA, CLAIRE IS ON THE REPUBLICAN LINE. CALLER:
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CALLER
GOOD MORNING AND THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THESE GUESTS THAT INFORM THE PUBLIC ABOUT WHAT GOES ON IN GOVERNMENT. THE WAR ON DRUGS, AM I MISUNDERSTANDING THE...
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GUEST
IS ONLY A TINY PORTION OF WHAT IS FOCUSED ON THE WAR IN DRUGS. -- THE ATF .. IT ENCOMPASSES EVERYTHING FROM WHAT WE SPEND PROVIDING AID TO FOREIGN POLICE...
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HOST
TWITTER -- GUEST:
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GUEST
THERE ARE INVESTIGATIONS INVOLVING DRUG TRAFFICKERS AND DRUG DEALERS. A LOT OF THE GUN CRIMES IN BIG CITIES. I SPENT TIME LAST SUMMER IN PHILADELPHIA...
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HOST
HOST: ON TWITTER -- GUEST: I THINK
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GUEST
CONGRESS IS A LONG WAY FROM GETTING THERE. I THINK WHAT THE VOTERS OF WASHINGTON STATE AND COLORADO HAVE DONE IS BEGUN A BIG DISCUSSION BETWEEN THE STATES...
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HOST
MINUTES LEFT. WE ARE TAKING YOUR CALLS. RON IS NEXT FROM CONNECTICUT ON OUR INDEPENDENT LINE. GOOD MORNING.
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CALLER
CALLER: GOOD MORNING. IT'S NICE TO BE ABLE TO TALK WITH REPRESENTATIVES OF THE ATF. BEAR WITH ME, BECAUSE I HAVE THE FLU. HOST: JUST BE CLEAR, HE'S
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HOST
A REPORTER FOR THE WALL STREET JOURNAL. CALLER: MAYBE HE CAN CLEAR
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CALLER
THIS UP FOR ME. WHY DO THEY MAKE SUCH A BIG DEAL ABOUT THE AR-15 BEING USED IN CONNECTICUT WHEN IT WAS NOT A FACTOR? IT WAS LOCKED UP IN THE TRUNK OF...
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GUEST
STATE'S INVESTIGATION IN CONNECTICUT IS STILL ONGOING. SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN RELEASED INDICATES THAT A SEMI-AUTOMATIC WAS USED TO KILL...
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HOST
THE ISSUE OF HAVING A PERMANENT DIRECTOR, AND TRACKING ISSUES THAT HAVE COME UP SINCE THE NEWTOWN SHOOTINGS. ANY OTHER ISSUES THAT HAVE COME UP OR CHANGES...
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GUEST
A DISCUSSION ABOUT CHANGING SOME OF THE LIABILITY LAWS. ONE OF THE ISSUES HAS ALWAYS BEEN -- I THINK THERE HAVE BEEN SOME PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY WHO...
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HOST
ISSUE OF INSPECTIONS INCREASING, WITH ADDITIONAL FUNDING, HAS THAT COME UP? GUEST: YES, IT
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GUEST
COMES UP EVERY YEAR. EVEN UNDER THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION IT WAS A HUGE SOURCE OF CONTROVERSY AND FOR THE FBI -- I'M SORRY, FOR ATF. IT IS SOMETHING THAT...
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HOST
THE DEMOCRATIC LINE FROM MEDINA. CALLER: HOW ARE
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CALLER
YOU? I HAVE A QUESTION IN REGARD TO HOW BORDER PATROL INTERSECTS LIWITH ATF. IF THE BORDER WERE COMPLETELY CLOSED AND WE HAD A FENCE AND IT WERE PATROLLED...
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GUEST
AT THE QUESTION OF THE DAY. THE ORDER IS WHAT IT IS. YOU PROBABLY WILL NEVER SEE A FULL FENCE ALONG THE BORDER. YOU SEE CROSSINGS HAVE GONE DOWN, BUT...
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HOST
ON TWITTER -- IS THAT HOW YOU WOULD CLASSIFY IT RIGHT NOW? GUEST: THAT'S
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GUEST
THE EASIEST THING FOR PEOPLE -- THIS IS NOT PARTISAN. A LOT OF POWER THAT THE NRA AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS HAVE IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE A LOT OF SUPPORT AMONG...
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HOST
NRA'S STATEMENT ON A THE PERSON NOMINATED IN 2010, I BELIEVE, FOR THE ATF JOB, PUT OUT A STATEMENT AFTER HIS NOMINATION. THEY WENT ON TO SAY THAT HE SERVED...
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GUEST
PROBABLY NOT. THEY OPPOSED THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION'S NOMINEE FOR THE ATF, MIKE SULLIVAN .
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HOST
HOST: AND DEMOCRATS?
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GUEST
GUEST: YES. SO IT'S NOT ABOUT TO IS IN THE WHITE HOUSE. THE NRA HAS AN ISSUE WITH THE LEADERSHIP OF ATF. THEY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE INSPECTION SYSTEM...
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HOST
IS UP NEXT ON BURLINGTON, IOWA, ON THE DEMOCRATIC LINE. GOOD MORNING. CALLER: GOOD
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CALLER
MORNING. I JUST WANTED HIM TO TELL THE PEOPLE WHEN FAST AND FURIOUS STARTED, WHAT PRESIDENT STARTED IT, AND WHEN IT STARTED, AND WHAT HAS BEEN GOING ON...
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HOST
IT WANTED A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ON THE BEGINNING OF THE FAST AND FURIOUS. GUEST: ARTS AND
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GUEST
BEGAN IN 2009. IT WAS AN INITIATIVE THAT BEGAN UNDER THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION. -- FAST AND FURIOUS BEGAN IN 20 09. THROUGH THAT WE LEARNED ABOUT PREVIOUS...
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HOST
CONNIE IS CALLING FROM BOWIE, MARYLAND, ON THE DEMOCRATIC LINE.
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CALLER
CALLER: GOOD MORNING. I WONDER WHY ATF DOES NOT GET INVOLVED UNTIL CRIME IS COMMITTED. WHY DON'T THEY DO SOMETHING AHEAD OF TIME? I WORKED IN THE GOVERNMENT....
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GUEST
THE WHITETHE LOT OF WHAT ATF DOES IS TO INVESTIGATE. YOU CANNOT REALLY INVESTIGATE SOMEONE UNTIL THEY HAVE DONE SOMETHING WRONG. AND POSSESSING A GUN...
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