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25th. WORLD HISTORIES WITH VANCE BRAND. THANK YOU, MR. BRAND, FOR BEING WITH US TODAY. IN 1975 ON JULY 15th, IT WAS A HISTORIC MOMENT IN SPACE WHEN...
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TO HAVE THE MISSION WAS MADE BETWEEN PRESIDENT NIXON AND KASEEGAN OF THE SOVIET UNION IN 1971. SO SOMETIME SHORTLY AFTER THAT I BECAME AWARE THAT...
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UNIQUE CHALLENGE BECAUSE THE BONDING OF YOUR OWN CREW WAS ESSENTIAL, OF COURSE, TO YOUR EFFORTS, BUT THEN NOW YOU HAD TO BOND WITH THIS OTHER CREW...
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YES. AS YOU SAY OR INFER, OUR INDIVIDUAL TRAINING AND OUR AMERICAN CREW TRAINING EVENTUALLY LED INTO JOINT CREW TRAINING. THAT WAS -- WELL, IT WAS...
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CAME HERE AS WELL TO TRAIN IN THE HOUSTON AREA. COULD YOU SHARE SOME OF THOSE EXPERIENCES, WERE YOU WITH THEM AS THEY WENT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY...
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ON WHAT THEY DID WITH US, WE TOOK THEM TO LOCAL RANCHES. FOR EXAMPLE, WE ALL WENT DOWN TO THE KING RANCH, WHICH IS IN SOUTHERN TEXAS, AND WE WENT...
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OF DIFFERENCES IN HOW THE SOVIETS TRAINED THEIR COSMONAUTS AS COMPARED TO HOW THE UNITED STATES WAS TRAINING YOU AS AN ASTRONAUT? >> THERE
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WERE SIMILARITIES AND DIFFERENCES. OF COURSE, THEY HAD THEIR SIMULATORS JUST AS WE HAVE SIMULATORS. AND I THINK THEY LEARNED, ALTHOUGH WE DIDN'T USE...
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THAT YOU TOOK LANGUAGE LESSONS EVEN BEFORE YOU KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO BE SELECTED, SO YOU STARTED TO DO THINGS ON A PERSONAL BASIS TO MINIMIZE THOSE...
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A CASE OF, ASIDE FROM OUR SORT OF USUAL TRAINING HERE IN HOUSTON, JUST GETTING USED TO A MISSION THAT WAS KIND OF THE FIRST TO COME ALONG THAT INVOLVED...
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ENTRAINED IN THE UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS JET FIGHTER PILOT, DID YOU HAVE ANY SORT OF HESITATION IN MOVING TO AN ERA WHERE YOU WERE WORKING WITH...
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WASN'T ANY PROBLEM OF THAT. IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND YOU KNEW THAT ALEXI HAD BEEN A FIGHTER PILOT FOR THE SOVIET UNION. SO IT WAS, RATHER THAN BEING...
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BEING A COMMON BOND N A WAY, THAT YOU HAD SOMETHING TO SHARE? >> SURE. >> AND YOUR CREW MEMBERS
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WERE WORKING WITH GENERAL STAFFORD AND SLATEN WAS SOMETHING NEW FOR YOU AS YOU WORKED FOR A BACKUP CREW AND THIS WAS YOUR FIRST TIME TO BE ON A CREW....
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HAD KNOWN TOM AND DEKE, THEY HAD BEEN MY BOSSES. DEKE STEPPED OUT OF MANAGEMENT POSITION, BY THE GUY IN CHARGE OF ALL THE ASTRONAUTS AND THE SUPPORTING...
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OF COURSE, WERE DIFFERENT WHEN YOU GOT TO YOUR DESTINATION THAT YOU STAYED IN STAR CITY AND THIS WAS, OF COURSE, THE PLACE THAT NOT MANY AMERICANS...
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20 OR 25 MILES OUTSIDE OF MOSCOW IN STAR CITY IN A FOREST. WELL, THEY HAD SORT OF A HOTEL THERE THERE, WHICH IN A WAY WAS SORT OF A SMALL PALACE IN THE...
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FOR US TO MOVE CLOSER INTO THE TIME THAT YOU LAUNCHED. AND FOR THAT MOMENT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE JUST A SECOND AND HAVE A DRINK? >> SURE. >> REFRESH...
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MENTIONED, THAT WAS 25 YEARS AGO THAT THIS EVENT CAPTURED THE WORLD'S EYES, THAT THE APOLLO-SOYUZ TEST PROJECT WAS TO BECOME A REALITY. IF YOU WOULD,...
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AND EXCITING TIME FOR THE CREWMEN AND THEIR FAMILIES. WE WERE JUST BEFORE THE MISSION, OF COURSE, FLYING DOWN TO THE CAPE A LOT. NOT THAT WE WOULD...
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AND THEN FINALLY THE DAY CAME WHERE AFTER NINE YEARS YOU HAD WAITED AFTER BECOMING AN ASTRONAUT TO GO INTO SPACE. CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THAT? DESCRIBE...
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SIMILAR WALKS PRIOR TO DO THAT, BUT IT WAS A NICE FEELING TO KNOW THAT LAUNCH DATE WAS FINALLY HERE. OF COURSE, THERE'S SO MUCH THAT CAN GO WRONG WITH...
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WAS NOT VERY LONG, JUST A COUPLE DAYS AFTER YOU LAUNCHED THAT THE MOMENT THAT THE WORLD HAD BEEN WAITING FOR, AT LEAST THE UNITED STATES AND THE SOVIET...
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AND SERVICE MODULE SPECIALIST. DEKE WAS DOCKING MY MODULE. SPECIALIST TOM WAS BOSS. SO THERE WAS A LOT OF CROSS-TRAINING AND WE ALL KNEW EACH OTHER'S...
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APPROXIMATELY FIVE YEARS OF PLANNING AND TRAINING AND NEW DEVELOPMENTS IN TECHNOLOGY FOR THIS MISSION. AND IT LITERALLY ALL CAME TOGETHER IN SPACE,...
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DAYS IN ORBIT TO CATCH ONE THE SOVIETS. SO BEFORE THE DOCKING WE HAD A LOT OF WORK TO DO. WE HAD TO GO THROUGH MANY STEPS EACH ONE OF WHICH HAD TO BE...
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I BELIEVE THREE HOURS PASSED IN THE TIME THAT YOU ACTUALLY DOCKED UNTIL THE GREETING, THE OFFICIAL GREETING TOOK PLACE. AND YOU MENTIONED SOME OF THOSE...
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SHARE FOR US THAT FEELING OF WHAT IT WAS TO SEE THAT HATCH OPENING AND KNOW THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO GO FROM ONE CRAFT TO THE OTHER NO LONGER ON THE...
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YEAH. WELL, YEAH, IT PROBABLY TOOK ABOUT THREE HOURS. I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY THE -- ACTUALLY, CONDITIONING THE ATMOSPHERES BETWEEN THE SPACECRAFT...
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I GUESS IN SOME RESPECTS QUITE A RELIEF TO KNOW THAT EVERYTHING HAD COME TOGETHER AS YOU HAD TRIED AND PLANNED. >> YEAH, I FOUND
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THAT EACH THING THAT WOULD COME UP ON OUR FLIGHT PLAN THAT WAS REQUIRE EDD QUITE A BIT OF ORCHESTRATION, AND AFTER WE CHECKED IT OFF I WOULD SAY, ...
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THE EXPERIMENTS THAT WERE THERE. DO YOU RECALL ANY OF THEM OR ARE THERE ANY EXPERIMENTS YOU WORKED ON THAT WERE OUTSTANDING IN YOUR MIND, EVEN TODAY...
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IF I REMEMBER ALL OF THE FIVE JOINT EXPERIMENTS. ONE WAS A METAL MIXING EXPERIMENT WHERE MIXTURES OF METAL WERE MELTED IN A FURNACE IN THE DOCKING MODULE,...
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YOU APPROACHED SOYUZ YOU COULD SEE IT AS THE TINY LIGHT. AS YOU WERE LEAVING AND UNDOCKED AND FINISHED THE EXPERIMENTS AND NOW WERE ON YOUR WAY BACK...
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THE FINAL UNDOCKING, THEY WERE IN A -- THEY WENT TO A LOWER ORBIT AND SPEEDED UP AND WENT AHEAD OF US. WE -- WE HAD TRIED TO PLAY A LITTLE JOKE...
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COMMUNICATIONS, YOU HAD TRIED SO HARD AS CREWS TO MAKE SURE THAT COMMUNICATION WAS DONE VERY WELL ON THE GROUND WITH BOTH LANGUAGES. DID ALL GO WELL...
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WELL. WE PROBABLY HAD A LOT OF ACCENT IN OUR RUSSIAN. AND TOM ALWAYS CLAIMS TO SPEAK OKLAHOMASKI, WHICH IS A COMBINATION OF OKLAHOMA -- WELL, IT'S...
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THE MISSION WAS OVER AND YOU'RE ON YOUR WAY BACK TO EARTH, AND THIS WAS ALSO NOT THE END OF JUST THE APOLLO-SOYUZ TEST PROJECT MISSION, IT WAS ALSO...
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WATER? >> SURE. WELL, AS YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS DID WATER LANDINGS BACK THEN, THE APOLLO COMMAND MODULE REENTERED, IT HAD A BIG HEAT SHIELD, AND SO WHEN...
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TO A HISTORIC MISSION AND A HISTORIC TIME IN THE SPACE PROGRAM. WAS THAT EVER PLAYING ON YOUR FEELINGS OR YOUR MIND OR THAT OF THE CREW OF KNOWING THAT...
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THE APOLLO EQUIPMENT WAS A THING TO STOP AND THINK ABOUT. IT HAD BEEN EQUIPMENT THAT HAD BEEN DEVELOPED TO GO TO THE MOON AND HAD BEEN VERY SUCCESSFULLY...
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YEARS AFTER YOUR MISSION THE SHUTTLE HELPED BRIDGE ANOTHER PARTNERSHIP WITH THE RUSSIANS. >> UH-HUH. >> WITH THE PROGRAM
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WHERE AMERICANS WERE ABLE TO KEEP A CONTINUOUS PRESENCE IN SPACE FOR APPROXIMATELY TWO YEARS AS A RESIDENT ON THE MERE SPACE STATION. HOW DO YOU THINK...
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NOW BECOMING APPARENT WHAT ALL THAT LED TO, WHAT THE FIRST JOINT -- THE FIRST COOPERATIVE MISSION WITH THE RUSSIANS WOULD LEAD TO. 25 YEARS AGO AFTER...
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WEEKS AGO YOU TRAVELED TO RUSSIA. TELL US ABOUT THE TRIP AND YOUR PURPOSE AND YOUR IMPRESSIONS OF BEING THERE AFTER SO MANY YEARS. >> WELL, I HADN'T...
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RUSSIA FOR 25 YEARS. WE HAD A MAGNIFICENT TOUR OF THE THEN SOVIET UNION AFTER THE MISSION IN THE FALL. GOSH, WE GOT ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY. STALIN...
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THE MAIN PURPOSE OF YOUR TRIP? >> THE MAIN PURPOSE OF THE
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TRIP WAS TO COMMEMORATE APOLLO SOYUZ. IT WAS A VERY GREAT, GREAT TRIP. WE SAW A LOT OF RUSSIANS THAT WE HADN'T SEEN FOR 25 YEARS AND HAD A FEW TOASTS...
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MODULE IS SUPPOSED TO JOIN WITH THE CURRENT MODULE. YOU ALSO HAVE SOMETHING SPECIAL THIS EVENING PLANNED AS WELL. >>
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YEAH. THERE WILL BE A DINNER TONIGHT. I DON'T THINK WE'LL HAVE THE COSMONAUTS HERE. IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S THREE DAYS OF CELEBRATION OR SOMETHING LIKE...
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HISTORIANS WOULD AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT AS WELL. OUR TIME IS STARTING TO WIND DOWN HERE. BEFORE WE MOVE OFF OF APOLLO SOYUZ TEST PROJECT AND THIS...
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TRY TO REFLECT ON SOME LESSONS LEARNED FROM THE MISSION. YES, THE COSMONAUTS AND ASTRONAUTS WORKED TOGETHER WELL. THE TECHNICAL PEOPLE REALLY GOT TOGETHER...
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HAS PROVEN EVERY TIME WE HAVE A CHANCE TO LEARN, THAT WILL JUST HELP US TO KNOW MORE. OF COURSE, BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT TIME WE VISIT, WE'LL HAVE...
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IS THE KEY TO A LOT OF THINGS. WORLD UNDERSTANDING DEPENDS ON BETTER COMMUNICATION. ONE THING THAT'S HELPED IN THE INTERVENING 25 YEARS IS THAT, LIKE...
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TIME TODAY AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT TIME THAT WE VISIT WITH YOU, TO HEAR ABOUT THE OTHER ASPECTS OF YOUR CAREER WITH NASA. >> OKAY. THANK YOU....
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