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Issa, Darrell - U.S. Representative, [R] California
WOULD FUNDAMENTAL PRINCIPLES. FIRST, AMERICANS HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW THAT THE MONEY WASHINGTON TAKES FROM THEM IS WELL SPENT. AND SECOND, AMERICANS...
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| 00:05:17 |
Cummings, Elijah - U.S. Representative, [D] Maryland
A BIPARTISAN EFFORT. I AM VERY DELIGHTED THAT IT IS BECAUSE I THINK IT IS SO VERY IMPORTANT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, THANKS TO ALL OF OUR WITNESSES...
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| 00:11:56 |
Issa, Darrell - U.S. Representative, [R] California
AND THE PLAYERS? I TOLD PEOPLE -- YOU CAN EXPOUND ON THIS LATER. THIS MAY BE VERY WELL THE FIRST OF SEVERAL HEARINGS AND THAT WE WANTED TO GET THE...
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| 00:14:55 |
Tabak, Lawrence A. - Principal Deputy Director
THAT FIVE MINUTES AS POSSIBLE, WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT. >> GOOD MORNING. >> THE OTHER THING IS THESE MIKE PHONES IN ORDER NOT TO GET PEOPLE BEHIND KNEW...
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| 00:19:57 |
Bowers, Larry - Chief Science Officer
DEVELOPMENT OF A TEST PROVIDED SOME FORMIDABLE CHALLENGE. TECHNICAL OBSTACLES HAVE BEEN OVERCOME WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF SEVERAL TESTING APPROACHES...
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| 00:25:32 |
Butkus, Dick - Founder
LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO ARE STILL QUESTIONING THE METS DOLLY AND VALIDITY OF THE GROWTH HORMONE TESTS ARE LAWYERS, NOT SCIENTISTS....
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| 00:27:50 |
Goldberg, Linn M.D. - Head
BODY DEVELOPMENT, AND RUIN THEIR CHANCES TO PLAY AT THE NEXT LEVEL, THEY MAKE SMART DECISIONS. NOW THE WORK IS TO EQUIP TEENAGE ATHLETES AND THEIR...
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| 00:33:16 |
Gimbel, Michael - Director
PLAYERS. ADDITIONALLY, ACCORDING TO THE GAO, WELL OVER $1 BILLION WAS WASTE ORDER THE FEDERAL ANTI-DRUG CAMPAIGN WHERE GREATER CAMPAIGN EXPOSURE APPEARED...
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| 00:38:05 |
Issa, Darrell - U.S. Representative, [R] California
SPORTS. THAT'S HOW POWERFUL IT IS. THAT'S THE MESSAGE THAT GOES TO OUR CHILDREN. SO WE NEED TO ATTACK THIS THE WAY WE ATTACKED EVERY OTHER ADDICTION....
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| 00:39:37 |
Bowers, Larry - Chief Science Officer
SHE WILL BE JOINING THE COMMITTEE IN THE NEXT CONGRESS. I WILL NOW RECOGNIZE MYSELF FOR A BRIEF ROUND OF QUESTIONS. FIRST OF ALL, DR. GOLDBERG, I SHARE...
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| 00:40:21 |
Issa, Darrell - U.S. Representative, [R] California
NOW BUT A TRILLION DOLLARS OF DEFICIT FROM NOW IT MAY BECOME FAMOUS. DR. BOWERS, YOU LOOKED AT THE DECADES OF THE TESTING OF HUMAN GROWTH HORMONES....
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| 00:41:28 |
Butkus, Dick - Founder
ADJUDICATION PROCESS IS THE APPROPRIATE PLACE TO DISCUSS A PARTICULAR TEST RESULT AND THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUES THERE. YES. >>...
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| 00:46:32 |
Cummings, Elijah - U.S. Representative, [D] Maryland
FOR HIGH SCHOOL TESTING. AND -- A LOT OF THE RESULTS WERE, WELL, YOU KNOW, THERE IS 100,000 KIDS TESTING AND ONLY TWO TURNED UP POSITIVE. WELL, IT COULD...
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| 00:47:50 |
Butkus, Dick - Founder
FOR HIGH SCHOOLS. >> I THANK YOU. I NOW RECOGNIZE THE RANKING MEMBER HIS QUESTIONS. >> I WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON THE CHAIRMAN'S QUESTIONS. FIRST OF...
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| 00:49:19 |
Cummings, Elijah - U.S. Representative, [D] Maryland
YOU THINK THAT SENDS TO THOSE VERY KIDS THAT YOU WERE TRYING TO HELP? >> WELL, THE MESSAGE IS THAT LIKE THEY HAVE FATED, IT'S IN THE HANDS OF LAWYERS...
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| 00:50:01 |
Gimbel, Michael - Director
KNOW, TALKING ABOUT HER KID AND I'M TRYING TO TALK TO A 10-YEAR-OLD KID AND THE MOTHER IS SAYING ASK HIM HOW TO BE A PRO, ASK HIM WHAT TO EAT. I TURN...
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| 00:51:20 |
Cummings, Elijah - U.S. Representative, [D] Maryland
WHEN NFL PLAYERS DON'T GET TESTED? I MEAN WHAT DOES THAT SAY? YOU TALKED ABOUT BEING ADDICTED TO WINNING. ARE YOU -- FROM WHAT YOU KNOW IN LISTENING...
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| 00:52:10 |
Bowers, Larry - Chief Science Officer
EDGE. THE LITTLE SKINNY KID IS LOOKING FOR AN EDGE BECAUSE HE'S BEEN TOLD BY HIS PARENTS OR THE COACH YOU BETTER BULK UP. AND THEN THEY LOOK UP AT THE...
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| 00:53:00 |
Chaffetz, Jason - U.S. Representative, [R] Utah
PART. >> JUST ONE LAST QUESTION. DR. BOWERS, I KEEP GOING BACK TO WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT ENLIGHTENING AND THE CHANCES OF BEING -- WHAT DID YOU SAY? THE...
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| 00:55:16 |
Bowers, Larry - Chief Science Officer
GOT TO SEND THE RIGHT MESSAGE TO THE YOUTH. SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, THE RANKING MEMBER CUMMINGS AND THE FIVE MEMBERS TESTIFYING HERE TODAY, I APPRECIATE YOUR...
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| 00:56:49 |
Issa, Darrell - U.S. Representative, [R] California
POPULATION STUDY, SO I DON'T THINK THAT THAT IS NECESSARILY APPLICABLE. MY OTHER PART OF IT IS, QUESTION, THE TESTS THAT YOU'RE PERFORMING, HAVE THOSE...
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| 00:58:02 |
Bowers, Larry - Chief Science Officer
AND TO THE NFL? >> WE OFFERED -- USADA OFFERED TO GO TO TALK TO THE PLAYER REPRESENTATIVES AND SHOW THEM ALL THE DATA THAT USADA HAS, ASK IF THERE ARE...
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| 00:58:35 |
Clay, William Lacy Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] Missouri
I JUST SORT OF WANT TO GO BACK TO WHAT MR. CUMMINGS STARTED ON. IF YOU WERE TO LOOK BELOW THE CURRENT LEVELS, THE THRESHOLD, THE VERY CONSERVATIVE THRESHOLD,...
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| 01:00:15 |
Butkus, Dick - Founder
WITH THAT, WE GO TO -- WELL, LET'S SEE. THERE WE GO. WE GO TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM MISSOURI WHO WAS PATIENTLY NOT LEAVING THE DAIS. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH....
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| 01:00:37 |
Clay, William Lacy Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] Missouri
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SCIENCE THAT UNDERLIES THE HGH TEST, ARGUING THAT IT SHOULD NOT BE APPLIED TO NFL ATHLETES. THIS HGH TEST HAS BEEN USED AT THE OLYMPICS...
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| 01:01:15 |
Bowers, Larry - Chief Science Officer
RANGE. FOR EXAMPLE, SIX-TIME PRO BOWL WIDE RECEIVER RANDY MOSS IS 6'4" AND WEIGHS 215 POUNDS. GOLD MEDALIST SPRINTER USAIN BOLT STANDS AT 6'5" AND 210...
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| 01:03:50 |
Desjarlais, Scott Eugene - U.S. Representative, [R] Tennessee
A TEST FOR GROWTH HORMONE ABUSE STARTED BACK IN 1996. IT SPLIT INTO TWO DIFFERENT PATHS, ONE OF WHICH IS THE TEST WE'RE DISCUSSING TODAY, WHICH IS THE...
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| 01:05:11 |
Goldberg, Linn M.D. - Head
BACKGROUND FOR THE TEST AND, AGAIN, THOSE ARE ALL IN THE PEER-REVIEWED LITERATURE, SO QUITE A BIT OF RESEARCH HAS BEEN DONE OVER THE LAST, WHAT, 15...
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| 01:05:51 |
Gimbel, Michael - Director
GENTLEMAN. WE NOW GO TO THE DISTINGUISHED GENTLEMAN FROM TENNESSEE. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN, FOR JOINING US TODAY. I WANT TO...
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| 01:06:55 |
Goldberg, Linn M.D. - Head
AND WHY IS THE PUNISHMENT NOT STARTING THERE AND THEN MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY AS MUCH ABOUT IT. I KNOW BAD THINGS WILL HAPPEN AS LONG AS THERE'S...
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| 01:07:10 |
Desjarlais, Scott Eugene - U.S. Representative, [R] Tennessee
PRESCRIBING HGH? DR. GOLDBERG? >> MANY OF THE KIDS WHO GET BOTH HGH OR THINK THEY'RE GETTING HGH OR ANABOLIC STEROIDS GET THEM FROM THE INTERNET. ...
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| 01:07:57 |
Butkus, Dick - Founder
THE OTHER ISSUE HERE IS THE FACT THAT MANY ATHLETES, PRO, COLLEGE, CERTAINLY HIGH SCHOOL, ARE GOING TO HEALTH FOOD STORES, GNC STORES, BUYING TONS OF...
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| 01:09:06 |
Issa, Darrell - U.S. Representative, [R] California
AND THE IOC DID A STUDY OF U.S. SUPPLEMENTS IN 2003 THAT WAS PUBLISHED THAT 18.6% OF SUPPLEMENTS OF 240 SUPPLEMENTS ANALYZED HAD TRUE ANABOLIC STEROIDS...
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| 01:09:32 |
Quigley, Michael "Mike" - U.S. Representative, [D] Illinois
SUPPLEMENT. I KNOW I HAVE A SON THAT PLAYED 140 POUNDS, AS YOU SAID HE'S NOT GOING TO THE NEXT LEVEL. BUT AS MUCH AS HE AND HIS OTHER TEAMMATES WANTED...
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| 01:10:34 |
Bowers, Larry - Chief Science Officer
GAME THE PARENTS MAKE THEM GO BACK IN THE PARKING LOT AND THEY CHUG DOWN ENERGY DRINKS, AT 9 YEARS OLD. I'M SAYING I'M TRYING TO REACH HIGH SCHOOL...
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| 01:13:44 |
Gimbel, Michael - Director
ANOTHER PROCEDURE FOR THAT PARTICULAR TEST, WE CAN'T USE IT. >> AND THERE WAS -- IS ANYONE DOING THE BIOMARKERS TEST NOW AT ALL? >> THE ONLY LAB THAT...
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| 01:14:29 |
Quigley, Michael "Mike" - U.S. Representative, [D] Illinois
WE CALL NO ADVANCE NOTICE, RANDOM OR OUT OF COMPETITION TESTING. SO TESTING ON GAME DAY, FOR EXAMPLE, DOESN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE TO ME. I WOULD BE...
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| 01:14:51 |
Gowdy, Trey - U.S. Representative, [R] South Carolina
PERIOD AND THEN HOW LONG ARE THEY OFF IT TYPICALLY? >> THE ANSWER IS IT DEPENDS, BUT THEY WOULD TAKE A CYCLE THAT MIGHT BE EVERY DAY FOR SEVERAL WEEKS...
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| 01:17:11 |
Bowers, Larry - Chief Science Officer
GREAT. THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING. >> WE NOW RECOGNIZE THE GENTLEMAN FROM SOUTH CAROLINA. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. SCIENCE, MR. CHAIRMAN, IS THE...
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| 01:21:06 |
Issa, Darrell - U.S. Representative, [R] California
EVEN AGREE TO EVENTUALLY HAVE A TEST ONCE THEY AGREED TO IT, AND THAT'S BEEN ONE OF THE FRUSTRATIONS AS RANKING MEMBER AND I PERSONALLY MET AND THOUGHT...
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| 01:21:56 |
Gowdy, Trey - U.S. Representative, [R] South Carolina
SETTING? IF IT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR THAT WAY TO BE SUSPENDED, WHY IS IT NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR THIS WAY? IS THE SCIENCE SOMEHOW DIFFERENT IN A COURTROOM THAN...
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| 01:22:47 |
Connolly, Gerald "Gerry" E. - U.S. Representative, [D] Virginia
YOUR AWARENESS OF THE FACT THAT AS AN ATHLETE, AS A PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE, YOU ARE AND HAVE BEEN A ROLE MODEL FOR A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE, AND YOU TOOK...
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| 01:23:32 |
Butkus, Dick - Founder
WE TRY TO INSTILL. WE USE THE BUTKUS AWARD FOR THE MOST OUTSTANDING LINEBACKERS AS A VEHICLE TO PLAY CLEAN. ANYBODY THAT'S ELIGIBLE GETS A LETTER FROM...
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| 01:24:28 |
Connolly, Gerald "Gerry" E. - U.S. Representative, [D] Virginia
AREA. CAN'T AFFORD TO EVER TO GO TO AN NFL GAME, BUT THEY'RE VERY AWARE OF NFL PLAYERS AS ROLE MODELS. AND IF THEY'RE TAKING DRUGS, YOU KNOW, THE REST...
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| 01:25:21 |
Goldberg, Linn M.D. - Head
TESTS. BUT WHEN YOU FIND A POSITIVE TEST, IT'S PROBABLY A TRUE POSITIVE. SO THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT. IF IT'S TO WEED OUT ALL USERS BECAUSE IT'S CYCLED...
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| 01:27:14 |
Connolly, Gerald "Gerry" E. - U.S. Representative, [D] Virginia
WITH THAT. >> YOU WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. SO THE SCIENCE ISN'T SO MUCH THE QUESTION, AND YOU HAVEN'T COMMENTED ON THAT, DR. GOLDBERG KIND OF PASSED THAT...
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| 01:27:43 |
Bowers, Larry - Chief Science Officer
MEETING IN 2004 OF THE 75 PEOPLE THAT ATTENDED, 20 WERE GROWTH HORMONE EXPERTS THAT HAD NO ASSOCIATION WITH SPORT. BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATION OF THAT...
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| 01:28:26 |
Issa, Darrell - U.S. Representative, [R] California
A POLICEMAN, BUT ON OCCASIONS, THEY DO, AND THE ACCURACY OF THE RADAR GUN SADLY IS QUITE GOOD. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL ALSO ADD TO THAT, IF YOU ARE CHARGED,...
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| 01:29:05 |
Goldberg, Linn M.D. - Head
WILL SLOW DOWN WHEN THAT PERSON IS CAUGHT ON THE SIDE. >> NOTHING SLOWS YOU DOWN MORE THAN THOSE FLASHING LIGHTS WITH THE OTHER GUY. >> BUT THEN GO DOWN...
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| 01:29:23 |
Issa, Darrell - U.S. Representative, [R] California
THAT POLICE STOP LOOKING FOR SPEEDERS. AND WITH THAT, WE RECOGNIZE THE GENTLEMAN FROM ARIZONA, DR. GOSAR. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. BUTKUS, I...
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| 01:29:42 |
Gosar, Paul - U.S. Representative, [R] Arizona
NFL PLAYERS ASSOCIATION WILL IMPLEMENT THE NEW HGH TEST THAT HAS BEEN ENDORSED BY THE INTERNATIONAL ANTI-DOPING OFFICIALS. NEXT SLIDE. IT SHOWS ANOTHER...
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| 01:31:05 |
Butkus, Dick - Founder
IN THIS CASE YOU HAVE A PLAYER REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE FALCONS SAYING THAT LET'S MOVE ON WITH IT, SO LET'S GET THE TESTING DONE AND ANOTHER ONE SAID THAT...
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| 01:33:17 |
Gosar, Paul - U.S. Representative, [R] Arizona
PART. I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. >> AND I WOULD APPRECIATE A LOT MORE OF THE NFL PLAYERS TO TAKE NOTICE AND PICK UP THAT ROLE OF LEADERSHIP. AND...
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| 01:33:48 |
Tabak, Lawrence A. - Principal Deputy Director
DRUGS? >> UNFORTUNATELY, THERE ARE VERY FEW STUDIES THAT SPEAK TO HGH PER SE AMONGST THE YOUNG. BUT ANECDOTALLY ONE OFF CASE REPORTS THERE IS REPORT...
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| 01:35:12 |
Farenthold, Blake Randolph - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
CHAIRMAN. MR. BUTKUS, I'D LIKE TO FOLLOW UP ON THE LINE OF QUESTIONING DR. GOSAR JUST COMPLETED. WE HEARD THE QUOTES THAT HE BROUGHT OUT FROM VARIOUS...
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| 01:36:02 |
Butkus, Dick - Founder
OVER WITH IT AND TAKE THIS PROBLEM OFF THE TABLE? >> I DON'T KNOW. >> ANYBODY ELSE ON THE PANEL? >> I MEAN I DON'T KNOW WHY. THERE MUST BE SOME DOUBT...
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| 01:36:26 |
Gimbel, Michael - Director
GO ALONG WITH IT. AGAIN, I THINK IT'S THE LAWYERS INVOLVED. >> DR. GIMBEL? >> I THINK AS WE LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE OF SUBSTANCES THAT ARE BEING USED...
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| 01:37:22 |
Farenthold, Blake Randolph - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
WRONG. SO AS WE LOOK AT THIS, AS THE PANEL HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT, THE ISSUE OF UNREGULATED SUPPLEMENTS IS A HUGE ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED...
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| 01:38:22 |
Gimbel, Michael - Director
BEING INVOLVED IN IT? AND I'LL ENTERTAIN A COMMENT -- COMMENTS FROM ANYBODY ON THE PANEL. MR. GIMBEL? >> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT SEVERAL YEARS...
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| 01:40:20 |
Issa, Darrell - U.S. Representative, [R] California
WELL, I SEE MY TIME IS EXPIRED. I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. >> I THANK THE GENTLEMAN. WILL...
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| 01:41:14 |
Cummings, Elijah - U.S. Representative, [D] Maryland
HYDRAULIC FRACTURING WAS UNDER ATTACK AND SO ON. SO I WANT TO THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR MULTI TASKING IN HIS LIFE AS WELL. MR. DOWDY, BEFORE WE GO CLOSING,...
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| 01:44:07 |
Issa, Darrell - U.S. Representative, [R] California
PEOPLE. IT HAS ON OUR YOUNG PEOPLE AND FOLKS. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN. >> THANK YOU, MR. CUMMINGS. AND I WANT TO...
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