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40th ANNIVERSARY OF THE WATERGATE BREAK-IN ON JUNE 17th, THE RICHARD NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY RELEASED INTERVIEWS WITH KEY STAFF CHARGED WITH INVESTIGATING...
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2011. WE'RE IN NEW YORK CITY. I HAVE THE HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO BE INTERVIEWING BERNIE NUSSBAUM FOR THE RICHARD NIXON ORAL HISTORY PROGRAM. THANK...
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AND TELL US PLEASE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW YOU BECAME A
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LAWYER. >> I WAS BORN IN 1937. SO I WAS 37 YEARS OLD IN 1974. I WAS BORN IN MANHATTAN ON THE LOWER EAST SIDE OF MANHATTAN.
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MY PARENTS WERE IMMIGRANTS. THEY WERE THE FIRST IN THEIR FAMILY TO COME TO THE UNITED STATES. THEY MET AND MARRIED HERE BUT THEY WERE BORN IN POLAND....
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STORY. >> WELL, THERE'S A
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LOT OF COURTROOM DRAMA IN THAT
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ONE. NO, IT
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WAS -- THE BROOKLYN
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ORGANIZATION REALLY WANTED TO WIN THAT CASE AND THERE WAS A -- AND ONE OF THE -- THE JUDGE WAS A JUDGE NAMED DOMINICK RINALDI WHO WAS AN OLD-TIME JUDGE...
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OH. THE JUDICIAL COMPLEXITY
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HERE. AT THE SAME TIME WE WERE FIGHTING TO PRESERVE HOLZMAN'S VICTORY AGAINST SELLER, SHE WON BY 600 VOTES AGAINST SELLER, THERE WAS ANOTHER CASE...
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JOHN DOER? I'VE GOT TO GO BACK EVEN BEFORE BEING HIRED BY
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JOHN. AS I SAID I WAS AN ASSIST ISN'T U.S. ATTORNEY AND I WENT TO HARVARD LAW SCHOOL AND I MET A LOT OF PEOPLE OBVIOUSLY AT HARVARD WHO I KNEW VERY...
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INVOLVED -- I WAS INVOLVED IN SORT OF VETTING AND DISCUSSING WITH DOER CERTAIN PEOPLE SUCH AS EVAN DAVIS,
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FOR EXAMPLE. YOU KNOW, AND I WAS SUPPORTIVE OF HIM HIRING CERTAIN PEOPLE WHO SORT OF CAME ALONG. I TRIED TO INDUCE HIM TO HIRE CERTAIN ADDITIONAL...
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ONCE. WAS JOE WOODS ALSO PART OF THE DISCUSSION WHETHER OR NOT TO THE CONTINUE THE INVESTIGATION STARTED BY THE SENATE? >> YES, NO, JOE WOODS WAS A VERY...
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HE USED THEM DIFFERENT PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT WAYS. AND HE CONSULTED WITH THEM. HE WAS YOU KNOW, FAIRLY CLOSE TO THE VEST AT TIMES. HE DIDN'T REALLY KNOW...
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NO. NOT ALWAYS. SOMETIMES YOU KNOW DOER WAS ALWAYS IN CONTACT WITH VAR PEOPLE ON
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HIS OWN. THERE WAS NOLS FORMAL MEETINGS A LOT, BUT SOMETIMES YEAH, SOMETIMES I WOULD TALK TO MARSHALL MYSELF OR OWEN WHO WAS REALLY THE KEY FIGURE...
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GENERALLY WAS CAUTIOUS AND HE GAVE GOOD ADVICE. YOU KNOW, I DON'T REMEMBER ANY
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PARTICULAR ISSUE AT THIS POINT. I THINK DOER CONSULTED HIM ON A LOT OF THINGS VIRTUALLY ANYTHING. THE KEY PERSON INTERVIEW HERE IS DOER, AND HE COULD...
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WAS TASKED TO MAKE A KEY PRESENTATION TO THE COMMITTEE ON THE NECESSITY FOR A THIRD ARTICLE IN THE ARTICLE OF IMPEACHMENT WHICH INVOLVED OUR INABILITY...
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AN IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY YES, NOT IN ANY OTHER INQUIRY BUT NOT IN A CRIMINAL CASE OR NOT IN ANY OTHER
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CASE, BUT THE EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE FALLS ON AN IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY. THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE IT FALLS. THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT WORKED OUT IN WATERGATE AND...
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NOT THEN ASKING ACCOUNT PRESIDENT
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TO WAIVE HIS FIFTH OR HER FIFTH AMENDMENT RIGHTS? >> THE IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDING IS NOT A CRIMINAL PROCEEDING. THE IMPEACHMENT DOESN'T SEND ANYBODY...
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IS TO DECIDE WHETHER SOMEBODY IS FIT TO STAY IN OFFICE. IN THAT PROCEEDING, THE PRESIDENT TAKES THE FIFTH AMENDMENT, OR REFUSES TO TESTIFY BECAUSE...
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THAT DEBATE? >>
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NO, I DON'T THINK THE
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OTHERS MAY HAVE DIFFERENT MEMORIES AND IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME, OBVIOUSLY. I DON'T THINK WE HAD DIFFERENT SIDES
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SO MUCH. BUT I THINK WE ALL REACHED A CONCLUSION, I KNOW I REACHED OUR CONCLUSION. THERE WAS NOT A LOT OF OPPOSITION. THE MORE WE LOOKED INTO IT, THE...
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CAME TO CONCLUDE HOW TO PRESENT THE INFORMATION TO THE COMMITTEE. YOU HAD AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF INFORMATION. >> YEAH. WELL, THIS WAS -- HERE I GIVE...
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THE CREDIT BUT TO DOER. THIS IS AN INTERESTING PROBLEM. DOER, WELL, LOOK, THE THING REALLY TOOK OFF AFTER WE GOT THE TAPES. WE REALIZED THE STUFF ON...
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CONNECTION WITH THIS. THE FIRST TIME --
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WELL, I HEARD THE TAPES BY MYSELF. IT WAS -- I WAS ONE OF THE FIRST PEOPLE ON THE STAFF TO HEAR THE TAPES. DOER OBVIOUSLY HEARD THE TAPES AT THE...
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ORAL HISTORIES EVERY WEEKEND SATURDAYS AT 8:00 A.M., SUNDAYS AT 3:00 P.M., AND EARLY MONDAY MORNINGS
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