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HOST, -
PROMOTE A RECENT MAGAZINE ARTICLE. THIS WEEK WE'RE JOINED BY MICHAEL HIRSH. WE'LL DO THE PHONE LINES OF A BIT DIFFERENT. IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A JOB,...
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| 00:00:47 |
GUEST, -
OF MY EDITOR AT "NATIONAL JOURNAL." I THOUGHT IT FIT THE CONCEPT THAT WE WERE TRYING TO GET ACROSS. THE CURRENT LONG-TERM UNEMPLOYMENT PROBLEM AND A...
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| 00:01:54 |
HOST, -
HAVE A CHART WE CAN LOOK AT. THESE ARE THE LONG-TERM UNEMPLOYED. GUEST: THE
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| 00:02:08 |
GUEST, -
LEFT-BEHINDS IS A WAY TO CAPTURE THE CONCEPT. IT IS IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THIS AS A REGIONAL PHENOMENA AS WELL AS THE INDIVIDUAL ONE. BECAUSE THEY ARE...
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| 00:02:50 |
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EXAMPLES. YOU TALK ABOUT STOCKTON, CALIFORNIA AND A TOWN IN PENNSYLVANIA AND THE WASTE THEY BECAME LEFT-BEHIND COMMUNITIES. GUEST: WE WENT BACK
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| 00:03:04 |
GUEST, -
TO THE OLD STEEL COMMUNITIES AND LOOKED AT HOW THEY FEARED DURING THIS PERIOD. PITTSBURGH, REINVENTED ITSELF AS IT HEALTH CARE AND HIGH-TECH CENTER....
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| 00:04:18 |
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A CHART. YOU'RE TALKING NOT STALKING, CALIFORNIA -- YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT STOCKTON, CALIFORNIA. HOST: THE GOVERNMENT
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| 00:04:40 |
HOST, -
ADDED ABOUT 80,000 JOBS. GUEST: IT
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| 00:04:44 |
GUEST, -
IS GRADUALLY GOING DOWN, BUT SLOWER THAN PEOPLE THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD. THIS IS NOW KNOWN AS THE JOBLESS RECOVERY. IT IS NOT QUITE THAT. WE HAVE SEEN A...
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| 00:05:27 |
HOST, -
HOW THESE CARE ABOUT. "MADE POSSIBLE BY THE FREE MARKETS AND INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY." GUEST: WE OF ADHERING
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| 00:06:00 |
GUEST, -
HAPPY TALK ABOUT GLOBALIZATION AND FREE TRADE AND THE ABILITY OF OUR ECONOMY TO ADAPT TO NEW TECHNOLOGIES AND THESE HUGE PHENOMENON. SOME 3 MILLION PEOPLE...
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| 00:07:01 |
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WE'RE SPEAKING WITH MICHAEL HIRSH. SERVED AS A SENIOR EDITOR OF FOUR"NEWSWEEK -- SENIOR EDITOR OF FOR ". NEWSW. NEWS OFNEWSWEEK." CALLER: I WAS
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| 00:07:26 |
CALLER, -
DOWNSIZED. I HAVE NOT HAD A FULL-TIME JOB YET. I HAVE HAD SOME PART-TIME JOBS AND HAVE TRIED TO SURVIVE ON THAT. I WAS OVERQUALIFIED OR BROUGHT GREAT...
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| 00:08:31 |
GUEST, -
IN TO A LOT OF THE PHENOMENA WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE. IT IS A SAD SITUATION. WHAT JAMES WAS REFERRING TO IT WAS WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER. WE...
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| 00:10:10 |
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ON TWITTER WHO BRING UP THAT POINT. THIS FRUSTRATION THAT IS OUT THERE. GUEST: JAMES SAID HE
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| 00:10:22 |
GUEST, -
WAS 58. THE OLDER YOU GET, 40'S, 50'S, 60'S, IT DOES GET A LITTLE BIT HARDER, I THINK. THESE ARE PEOPLE -- THIS PHENOMENON GOES BACK 30 YEARS -- THEY...
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| 00:10:57 |
CALLERHOST, -
IN FLORIDA. CALLER:
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| 00:11:00 |
CALLER, -
GOOD MORNING. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. WHAT DO YOU THINK OBAMA IS GOING TO DO TO HELP JOBS AND THE ECONOMY, ESPECIALLY IN FLORIDA? THE JOB SITUATION IS...
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| 00:11:45 |
GUEST, -
PRESIDENT'S INTENTION HAS BEEN TO GET JOB TRAINING PROGRAMS UP AND RUNNING FOR SOME TIME. WHAT IS HAPPENING IN WASHINGTON IS BASICALLY TOTAL STALEMATE...
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| 00:13:00 |
HOST, -
ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN CRITICIZED FOR THE GREEN JOBS TRAINING PROGRAM. THERE WERE HOPING TO SPEND STIMULUS MONEY TO TRAIN WORKERS. THEY SPENT $163 MILLION...
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| 00:13:25 |
GUEST, -
BEEN CONSUMED IN THE SCANDAL OVER SOLYNDRA, A COUPLE OF A GOT SUPPORT FROM THE GOVERNMENT AND PROMPTLY WENT BANKRUPT AND SO THE REPUBLICANS AND OPPONENTS...
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| 00:14:29 |
HOST, -
ABOUT 25 MINUTES LEFT WITH MICHAEL HIRSH FROM "NATIONAL JOURNAL." WE GO TO JOSEPH. CALLER: I AM AN EX MANAGER
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| 00:14:41 |
CALLER, -
FROM IHOP. MY UNEMPLOYMENT IS ABOUT TO RUN OUT. THESE PEOPLE EXPECTED TO SURVIVE ON UNEMPLOYMENT. WHAT DO THEY WANT US TO DO WHEN IT RUNS OUT? FROM WHAT...
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| 00:15:29 |
HOST, -
HOST: WHICH THE GOVERNMENT BE DOING FOR JOSEPH -- WHAT SHOULD THE GOVERNMENT BE DOING FOR JOSEPH? GUEST:
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| 00:15:38 |
GUEST, -
A LOT MORE MONEY IN THESE BUDGETS IN THESE TIMES WHEN THERE IS NOT A LOT OF MONEY TO GO AROUND. THE DEBATE IS ABOUT FURTHER CUTTING THE BUDGET. THERE...
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| 00:17:56 |
HOST, -
LABOR UNIONS. DIANA FROM LIVINGSTON, NEW JERSEY. CALLER: I THINK
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| 00:18:11 |
CALLER, -
THE FACT OF THESE JOB TRAINING PROGRAMS ARE NOT MATCHING US UP WITH THE SKILLS THE EMPLOYERS DESIRE. I JUST FINISHED A PROGRAM TO THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH...
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| 00:19:30 |
GUEST, -
GREAT POINT. IN ANOTHER ARTICLE THAT I WROTE, I FOCUSED ON SOME OF THESE COMPANIES. ONE WAS SIEMENS, THE COMPANY HAS A BIG PRESENCE IN THE U.S. DOWN...
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| 00:20:41 |
CALLER, -
GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL. IT IS INTERSTATE YOU MENTIONED THE 19070'S. I WORK WITH SOME COMMITTEE ORGANIZING. THE ENTIRE RUST BELT. ...
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| 00:22:31 |
GUEST, -
THANK YOU. A VERY MOVING STORY. PART OF THIS PHENOMENON IS STILL THE CLASSIC ECONOMICS ISSUE OF COLLAPSE IN DEMAND AND HANGOVER FROM THE RECESSION, WHICH...
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| 00:23:59 |
HOST, -
ISSUE, GORDON WRITES -- GUEST: THAT IS
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| 00:24:06 |
GUEST, -
ANOTHER IMPORTANT POINT, ONE I HAVE MADE IN SOME OF MY ARTICLES IN THE PAST. EVERYBODY WANTS TO GO TO COLLEGE, LIBERAL ARTS COLLEGE, AND YET IT HAS...
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| 00:25:24 |
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HOST: WE'RE TALKING WITH MICHAEL HIRSH, AUTHOR OF "THE LEFT- BEHINDS." THIS IS IN THE NOVEMBER 19 ADDITION OF "NATIONAL JOURNAL." ROBERT IS LOOKING FOR...
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| 00:25:47 |
CALLER, -
CALLER: GOOD MORNING. I AM UNDER EMPLOYED. I WORKED TWO JOBS, A PART-TIME JOB AND A FULL-TIME JOB. I AM A CERTIFIED TEACHER IN TEXAS. I AM A FORMER NEWSPAPER...
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| 00:26:31 |
HOST, -
HAS BEEN THE TOUGHEST PART OF THE PROCESS FOR YOU? CALLER: GOOD TO REPEAT
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| 00:26:38 |
CALLER, -
THAT -- COULD YOU REPEAT THAT? HOST: YOU FEEL LIKE YOU
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| 00:26:46 |
HOST, -
HAVE BEEN THROWN AWAY. CALLER: I THINK IT COMES
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| 00:26:51 |
CALLER, -
FROM WHEN PEOPLE SEE MY RESUME AND THEY SEE MY EXPERIENCE AND THEY GO DOWN AND A LOOK AT THE YEARS, THE CHRONOLOGICAL LISTING OF THE JOBS AND THEY THINK,...
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| 00:28:23 |
CALLER, -
MORNING. I HAVE A QUESTION. EARLIER TODAY YOU LET A CONGRESSMAN FROM SOUTH CAROLINA WHO BASICALLY SPOKE ABOUT HOW UNEMPLOYMENT IS BECOMING LIKE THE...
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| 00:29:16 |
GUEST, -
GUEST: TO A CERTAIN EXTENT I CAN. YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE IS AN UNFAIR BIAS AGAINST THOSE WHO ARE COLLECTING UNEMPLOYMENT. THESE LONG, OUTDATED STEREOTYPES...
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| 00:30:40 |
HOST, -
DIEGO WRITES IN TO SHARE HER STORY. HOST:
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| 00:30:57 |
HOST, -
LET'S GO TO JERRY FROM MINNESOTA. HE HAS STOPPED LOOKING. GO AHEAD. CALLER: I WOULD LIKE TO
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| 00:31:08 |
CALLER, -
KNOW WHERE THIS GENTLEMAN AND HIS GOVERNMENT BASICALLY, WHERE THEY ARE LOOKING. I WALK OUT MY DOOR AND I SEE HISPANICS THAT I KNOW ARE NOT LEGAL, WORKING...
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| 00:31:41 |
HOST, -
THESE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, DO YOU BELIEVE -- ARE THESE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS?
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| 00:31:49 |
CALLER, -
CALLER: THEY ARE EMPLOYED.
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| 00:31:53 |
GUEST, -
GUEST: ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS A PROBLEM. THERE HAS BEEN A LONG-TERM PERCEPTION THAT GOOD AMERICAN JOBS ARE BEING TAKEN BY IMMIGRANTS. IN MANY CASES, YOU...
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| 00:32:39 |
HOST, -
ABOUT THE LOSS OF THE MIDDLE CLASS AS WELL. HOST: 20 IS STILL LOOKING
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| 00:32:45 |
HOST, -
IN TENNESSEE -- TONY. CALLER: I HAVE BEEN
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| 00:32:50 |
CALLER, -
UNEMPLOYED FOR TWO YEARS. MY LAST JOB I WAS THE FORFIVE FIVE YEARS. I HAVE MULTIPLE FRIENDS IN THE SAME SITUATION. THEY WERE GETTING REPLACED. THIS REDUCES...
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| 00:33:32 |
GUEST, -
TO DO WITH BUILDING OR CONSTRUCTION OR MAINTENANCE OF NEW BUILDINGS RELATED TO THE COLLAPSE OF THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY IN THE AFTERMATH OF THE SUBPRIME...
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| 00:34:52 |
HOST, -
ON TWITTER. HOST: US GO TO
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| 00:35:03 |
HOST, -
SHARON IN NORTH CAROLINA BUT LET'S GO TO SHARON.
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| 00:35:08 |
CALLER, -
CALLER: GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL. I WATCH "WASHINGTON JOURNAL" EVERY MORNING. I'VE BEEN OUT OF WORK SINCE 2008. I LOOK FOR A JOB LIKE...
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| 00:37:45 |
HOST, -
DIEGO. CALLER: GOOD
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| 00:37:48 |
CALLER, -
MORNING. GIVE ME YOUR OPINION ON A SITUATION ABOUT ROBOTICS. WE'LL KNOW THAT WORKERS NEED TO TAKE BATHROOM BREAKS AND LUNCH BREAKS. WHY PAY A HUMAN BEING...
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| 00:38:24 |
GUEST, -
ROBOTICS, NEW TECHNOLOGY, IT IS ALL PART OF THESE CHANGES OCCURRING IN THE WORKFORCE. A LOT OF IT IS INEVITABLE. YOU WANT AMERICA TO HAVE A HIGH- TECH...
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| 00:39:01 |
HOST, -
TRADE-OFF? GUEST: THERE IS NOT
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| 00:39:05 |
GUEST, -
AN EVEN TRADE-OFF ON JOBS. OUR ECONOMY IS OPEN AND FREE AND WE BASED OUR ECONOMIC ON FREE TRADE, WE WILL ADAPT AND, ON TOP. THAT IS THE NEW CONCLUSION...
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| 00:40:16 |
HOST, -
YOU OPTIMISTIC? GUEST: LOOK
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| 00:40:21 |
GUEST, -
AT WHAT POLITICIANS ARE TALKING ABOUT IN WASHINGTON. IT IS NOT TERRIBLY ENCOURAGING. HOST: WITH THE
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| 00:40:29 |
HOST, -
OCCUPY WALL STREET MOVEMENTS -- GUEST: AT LEAST THE MESSAGE
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| 00:40:36 |
GUEST, -
IS GETTING BACK TO WASHINGTON THAT THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE WHICH SHOULD BE DISCUSSING BESIDES CUTTING THE SIZE OF GOVERNMENT. THE SEARCH TURNED TO...
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| 00:40:55 |
HOST, -
WALL STREET MESS IT COALESCED AROUND THIS MESSAGE -- MESSAGE CALL LAST. GUEST: WHAT THEY ARE UPSET
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| 00:41:07 |
GUEST, -
ABOUT IS VERY REAL. HOST: WHAT IS
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| 00:41:12 |
HOST, -
THE NEXT STEP FOR THE FINAL STEP? GUEST: I THINK
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| 00:41:19 |
GUEST, -
THAT THE EFFECT THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE TO CHANGE THE ECONOMIC DISCUSSION -- WE HAVE TO GET AWAY FROM THE SIMPLISTIC NOSTRUMS, THE KIND OF THINGS WE'VE...
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| 00:42:19 |
HOST, -
TWICE A THANK YOU SO MUCH. ON, D.C., NOVEMBER 30, 2011. I HEREBY APPOINT THE HONORABLE MO BROOKS
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