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NATIONAL REVIEW" AND AUTHOR OF THE NEW BOOK, "THE GRAND JIHAD: HOW ISLAM AND THE LEFT SABOTAGE AMERICA"." ANDREW MCCARTHY, YOU HAD WRITTEN PREVIOUSLY...
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REALLY A NATIONAL SECURITY PROBLEM. THE IDEA BEHIND THIS BOOK WAS TO GET DEEPER INTO WHAT THE NATIONAL SECURITY PROBLEM IS, AND TRY TO EXPLAIN THAT IT...
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| 00:00:49 |
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GUEST: IT'S DRAWN FROM A 1991 MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD MEMORANDA AND. THE BROTHERHOOD, WHICH IS REALLY THE FRONT OF
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ISLAMIST IDEOLOGY, FOUNDED IN THE LATE 1920'S. IN THE MEMORANDUM, THE BROTHERHOOD REFERS TO ITS WORK IN THE UNITED STATES AS "THE GRAND JIHAD" WHICH IS...
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WORLDWIDE ORGANIZATION THAT WAS FOUNDED IN EGYPT IN THE LATE 1920'S. INTERESTINGLY,
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| 00:01:35 |
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IT WAS FOUNDED VERY MUCH IN REACTION TO THE PROGRAM TO SUPPRESS ISLAM FROM SOCIETY IN TURKEY. THE IDEA WAS THAT THE PROBLEM IN THE MUSLIM WORLD WAS NOT...
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| 00:02:12 |
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GUEST: I DO NOT THINK IT IS REALLY A RELIGION. IT IS A COMPREHENSIVE SOCIAL,
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ECONOMIC, POLITICAL, AND LEGAL MOVEMENT THAT HAS SPIRITUAL ELEMENTS. IT'S REALLY AN IDEOLOGY THAT ASPIRES, NOT ONLY TO DOMINATE THE WORLD, BUT ALSO TO...
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WE WILL TAKE YOUR TWEETS AS WELL. THE SUBTITLE OF THE BOOK, "HOW ISLAM AND THE LEFT SABOTAGE AMERICA." HOW DO YOU SEE THE LEFT IN THE U.S. ALIGNING WITH...
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| 00:03:21 |
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WHEN I'M SPEAKING ABOUT THE LEFT, I'M SPEAKING ABOUT THE HARD LEFT. IT'S NOT REALLY A HYPOTHESIS THAT THEY MAY WORK TOGETHER. THEY ARE INFECTED TO...
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YOU WROTE THAT SAUDI ARABIA IS THE CRADLE OF ISLAM. HOST: HOW MUCH DIFFERENT IS THE PRESIDENT IN THAT GESTURE DIFFERENT FROM PRESIDENT BUSH AND HOLDING
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| 00:04:59 |
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THE HAND OF THE KING, OR IN OTHER PRESIDENTS BEING VERY DEFERENTIAL TO THE SAUDI KINGDOM? GUEST: THE FRAGILE IS ONE THING. I DO DISCUSS THE HANDHOLDING.
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| 00:05:13 |
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AMERICAN PRESIDENTS DO NOT BOW TO FOREIGN DIGNITARIES. IT WAS A BOLD MISSED JUDGMENT ON THE PART OF A PRESIDENT TO BOW TO THIS MONARCHS, WHO HAS BANKROLLED...
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| 00:06:30 |
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I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE YOUR GUEST TO ADDRESS THIS
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| 00:06:35 |
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PARTICULAR ISLAMIC FASCIST PROPAGANDA LINE. I COULD NOT GET OVER THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THIS MORNING IN COLDWHO CALLED. IF THEY WERE NOT ANTI-SEMITIC,...
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| 00:07:55 |
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WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT JIHAD QUITE A BIT. SOME PEOPLE SAY
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| 00:08:01 |
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IS AN ALWAYS, EVERYWHERE COMBAT OPERATION. OTHERS WANT TO REVISE IT TO MEAN SOMETHING BENIGN, LIKE AN INTERNAL STRUGGLE FOR PERSONAL BETTERMENT. IT...
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| 00:09:12 |
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I SAW YOU ON THIS MORNING, I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY
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| 00:09:15 |
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INTERESTING. I'VE BEEN GIVING A LOT OF THINKING RECENTLY ABOUT THE FACT THAT EVEN BELFORE WORLD WAR II, THE MIDDLE EAST IN GERMANY WERE VERY COPACETIC,...
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| 00:10:40 |
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SUBJECTS. I DO NOT WANT TO TRIVIALIZE TH IS. THERE ARE BIG PICTURE ITEMS THAT THEY HAVE IN COMMON DID THEY ARE BOTH AUTHORITARIAN IN NATURE. FOR THE ISLAMIST,...
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| 00:12:36 |
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SHEIKH. WHAT LESSONS DID WE NOT LEARN IN THE AFTERMATH OF 9/11? GUEST: WE IMMEDIATELY CLAMPED DOWN ON ANY CONSIDERATION OF THE ROLE OF ISLAM IN THAT
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ATTACK. I THINK THAT WAS A REALLY TRAGIC ERROR. TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN AND SHOULD BE IN POWERING AUTHENTIC MUSLIMS TRYING TO REFORM THEIR RELIGIONS,...
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| 00:15:26 |
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YOUR TELEVISION SET. IS THIS MARY IN LOS ANGELES? CALLER: NO. HOST: HERE'S MARY. CALLER: THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL. I WANTED TO ASK YOU -- BEFORE
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THE 9/11 ATTACKS, I UNDERSTAND THERE WERE SEVERAL OF THE BIN LADEN FAMILY LIVING IN DIFFERENT PLACES IN THE UNITED STATES. WAS THERE ANY INVESTIGATION...
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| 00:16:23 |
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STRANGE TO HIM STATISTICS WHICH SOME BIN LADEN -- VERY STRANGE CIRCUMSTANCES. SOME OF THEIR LIFTED -- AIR- LIFTED OUT. I FIND THAT TO BE ONE OF THE REALLY...
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| 00:17:05 |
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SCIENCE MONITOR -- ONE YEAR AGO. I WANT TO PLAY IN A SHORT CLIP. >> I HAVE COME TO CAIRO TO SEEK A NEW BEGINNING BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND MUSLIMS...
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WORLD, BASED ON MUTUAL INTEREST IN MUTUAL RESPECT. AND ONE BASED UPON THE IDEA THAT AMERICA AND ISLAM ARE NOT EXCLUSIVE AND NEED NOT BE IN COMPETITION....
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IN CAIRO? GUEST: PRESIDENT OBAMA -- ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS HE SAID IN CAIRO, WHICH I AGREE WITH, WAS THAT FOR US IN AMERICA
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| 00:18:20 |
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TO UNDERSTAND ISLAM, WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS AND WHAT IT IS NOT. HE PROCEEDED TO SAY WHAT IT IS NOT, UNFORTUNATELY. HE TALKED ABOUT A VISION...
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| 00:20:59 |
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CAN YOU EXPAND IN A LITTLE BIT ON HOW THE
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TITLE REPRESENTS AN ONGOING PROCESS AND HOW THE U.S. CONGRESS PLAYS A ROLE IN THIS? GUEST: WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS A PARTICULAR PART OF THE LEFT AND...
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| 00:21:19 |
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THE HARDER ELEMENTS OF BOTH. CONGRESS PLAYS INTO THIS EQUATION THE SAME WAY WE ALL DO. BEFORE YOU CAN DEAL WITH A SABOTAGES STRATEGY -- THAT IS THEIR...
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| 00:22:42 |
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RICHMOND, VA., AND CHARLES ON THE LINE FOR REPUBLICANS. CALLER: GOOD MORNING. WHEN THE FOUNDING FATHERS CAME TO THE
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NEW CONTINENT, THEY BOUGHTROUGHT KORANS WITH THEM. SLAVERY IS ISLAMIC. WHEN THEY LEFT, MOST OF THE EUROPEANS DID NOT DELLIKE SLAVERY. THE CONSTITUTION...
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| 00:23:43 |
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GUEST: DESPITE THE FACT THAT SLAVERY IS THE DARKEST CHAPTER IN THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY, IT IS A CHAPTER THAT WE OVERCAME.
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THE CALLER IS THOUGHT THAT THERE IS ISLAMIC SCRIPTURE, WHICH IS APPROVING OF SLAVERY, FOR THAT REASON WORLD. HOST: YOU ARGUE IN YOUR BOOK THAT PRESIDENT...
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| 00:24:12 |
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MESSAGE AND IMAGES FOR A MUSLIM WORLD. OUTSIDE OF THE SPEECH IN CAIRO, GIVE US A SPECIFIC ONGOING EXAMPLE OF THAT. GUEST: THE PRESIDENT FOLLOWS THE SAME...
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| 00:24:30 |
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THEY PRESENT A SANITIZED VERSION OF WHAT SOME OF THE SCRIPTURES SAY. FOR EXAMPLE, YOU GET CONSTANT COATING OF THE SCRIPTURE THAT TALKS ABOUT -- IN ISLAM,...
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| 00:26:13 |
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SURE DO. I THINK IS RELEVANT THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS ROOTS IN THE MUSLIM WORLD.
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| 00:26:19 |
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OBVIOUSLY, HE THINKS IT IS RELEVANT, TOO. IF WE'RE GOING TO DEFEND WESTERN CIVILIZATION -- IN OUR CIVILIZATION, IF YOU DECLARE YOUR A CHRISTIAN, YOU ARE...
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| 00:26:48 |
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TO CHALLENGE HIS SCHOLARSHIP. FOR CENTURIES, I BELIEVE CHRISTIANS KILLED
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CHRISTIANS IN GREAT NUMBERS. AND MUSLIMS AND EVERYONE ELSE. THERE WAS KRISTIN JIHAD -- THERE WAS CHRISTIAN JIHAD. THE REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN THE ONES...
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| 00:27:31 |
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CONTENT. THERE WAS VIOLENCE IN CHRISTIANITY. OTHER RELIGIONS AS WELL. THE PROBLEM WITH CHRISTIANITY, AND THE PROBLEM WITH ISLAM -- WHETHER I'M RIGHT...
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| 00:28:17 |
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WHITE HOUSE, ROBERT GIBBS. ANDREW MCCARTHY WILL STAY WITH US LONGER TO TALK ABOUT HIS BOOK, "THE GRAND JIHAD: HOW ISLAM AND THE LEFT SABOTAGE AMERICA"."...
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SOME OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS CORRECT. [INAUDIBLE] ONE THING I SEE IS NO ONE BRINGS UP THE CAUSE OF THESE PROBLEMS. IT COMES UP NATURALLY. THE IRANIAN...
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HOST: I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE TAIL END OF HIS COMMENTS, YES.
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| 00:29:47 |
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GUEST: AS FAR AS IRAN IS CONCERNED, THE POLICY OF THE UNITED STATES SHOULD HAVE BEEN
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REGIME CHANGE FOR A VERY LONG TIME, SINCE BEFORE 9/11. IT WAS THE IRANIAN REGIME THAT KILLED 19 MEMBERS OF THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE. THEY HAVE BEEN...
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| 00:31:04 |
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REPUBLICAN LINE. CALLER: THANK YOU FOR C-SPAN. I WANT TO BRING UP A POINT.
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HERE IN THE ENLIGHTENMENT, -- DURING THE ENLIGHTENMENT, PEOPLE REALIZE THAT RELIGION WAS NOT EVERYTHING AND OTHER THINGS NEEDED TO HAVE BEEN IN THE ...
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| 00:31:38 |
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I DO NOT PRETEND TO BE A SCHOLAR OF COMPARATIVE RELIGIONS. I DO KNOW THAT SCRIPTURES IN THE WEST AND THE RELIGIONS WE ARE FAMILIAR WITH IN THE WEST...
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| 00:32:52 |
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ALSO IN CHAPTER 5, WHAT IS DAWA? GUEST: THE MISSIONARY WORK THROUGH WHICH ISLAM IS SPREAD.
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| 00:33:07 |
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IT HAS DEVELOPED INTO WHAT ROBERT SPENCER HAS CALLED SELF,JI JIHAD. A WAY IN WHICH PEOPLE TRY TO SPREAD SHARIA LAW IN EVERY WAY EXCEPT TERRORIST ACTS...
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| 00:33:33 |
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VA. CALLER: THANK YOU FOR PICKING UP MY CALL. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION ABOUT EUROPEAN
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AFFAIRS. WE ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE SITUATION IN SWITZERLAND WHEN THEY RECENTLY -- I WOULD LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION TO ANDREW MCCARTHY. DO YOU THINK THAT...
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| 00:34:41 |
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SHARIA AGENDA IS ADVANCED IS NOT ONLY BY ACTS OF TERRORISM, BUT BY A BROAD BASED PROPAGANDA CAMPAIGN THAT SEEMS TO INFILTRATE THE MEDIA AND THE ACADEMY...
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| 00:36:43 |
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YES, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU IN YOUR RIDINGS. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY,
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I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THESE MUSLIMS PUT A DUTY ON HOLLYWOOD RUNNING AROUND HALF NAKED ALL THE TIME. I DID NOT THINK THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO BUILD AT GROUND...
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THAT ON THE THEORY THAT SOMETHING ALWAYS BEATS NOTHING, WE DO HAVE A
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MORAL DRIFT IN THE UNITED STATES AND ISLAMISTS, WE MAY NOT LIKE WHAT THEY BELIEVE -- I DON'T LIKE WHAT THEY BELIEVE -- BUT THE BOOK -- BUT THEY DO BELIEVE...
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US. THAT WILL DO IT FOR THIS ONCE PROGRAM. IT BACK TOMORROW MORNING AT 7:00 A.M. EASTERN. WE WILL TAKE YOU LIVE TO THE WHITE HOUSE. ADMIRAL THAD ALLEN...
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