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CONSIDERATION ALL OCCURS IN THE LAST FEW MINUTES. >> THE MEETING OF THE COMMITTEE WILL COME TO ORDER. TODAY'S MEETING IS TO CONSIDER S2191, THE LIEBERMAN-WARNER...
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VALLEY AUTHORITY. THE AMENDMENT IN THE NATURE TO S2191 WILL BE THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS. AND THEN WE WILL CONSIDER THE NOMINATION. BEFORE I RECOGNIZE...
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OPENING STATEMENTS ANNUAL PROCEED TO SENATORS AND HALF AND GO DOWN THE LINE. SENATORS
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LIEBERMAN AND WARNER TELL ME THEY DO NOT WANT ADDITIONAL TIME WHICH IS I THINK IT IS KIND TO OFFER. MY COLLEAGUES, I EXPRESSED TO YOU MY DEEP GRATITUDE...
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| 00:09:56 |
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SWITCH TO BE KNOWN AS THE YEAR OF MISSED OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS COMMITTEE. IT'S TRUE WE HAD ABOUT 20 HEARINGS CLIMATE HEARINGS ON THE IMPACTS OF CLIMATE...
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| 00:10:12 |
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HAD TO RUSH PROCESS TO BECOME THE SINGLE APPROACH.
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| 00:10:15 |
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I THINK WILL HAVE AMENDMENTS TODAY THAT WILL PUT THAT IN DRABS TO CHANGE THE SITUATION. BY FOCUSING ON THE FORM OVER SUBSTANCE WE MISSED AN OPPORTUNITY...
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WILL CONTINUE TO ACCELERATE
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| 00:12:30 |
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AS IT BUILDS COAL PLANTS AND IMPORTS JOBS FROM THE UNITED STATES. THIS WILL BE ENORMOUSLY EXPENSIVE TO HOUSEHOLDS WITHIN SEVEN YEARS, AND ELECTRICITY...
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| 00:14:15 |
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IT SENATO I CALL UP THAT AMENDMENT AND THE TECHNICAL AND BEFORE ME A MINUTE THAT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS A BOXER NUMBER ONE. I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT...
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| 00:14:52 |
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FRIEND, ALEC, PARTNER, CO-SPONSOR. TO THINK ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE TO OF CONTRIBUTOR TO THE MEASURE BEFORE THE COMMITTEE TODAY, ALL OF OUR...
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| 00:15:02 |
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SO HARD AND ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS OUTSIDE HUNDREDS WHO WE HAVE INTERACTED WITH AS RECONSTRUCTED THIS BILL WHICH I BELIEVE IS STRONG AND BALANCED. MADAM...
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| 00:18:55 |
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I THINK VERY COOPERATIVE WE TO PROVIDE US WITH
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THE BACKGROUND AND ESSENTIALS TO GO FORWARD IN THIS MARKUP. I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I AM A LATE COMER TO THE SUBJECT. A CONVERT I SUPPOSE YOU MIGHT SAY....
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| 00:22:46 |
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ONCE WROTE, SOMETHING IS HAPPENING HERE. JUST WHAT IT IS IN EXACTLY CLEAR. OVER TIME I BELIEVE IT IS BECOME CLEAR WHAT IS HAPPENING. OUR EARTH CONTINUES...
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| 00:24:21 |
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AROUND THE WORLD AND ALSO AT THE SAME TIME WAS IN THE DIRECTION OF WHAT I REFER TO AS THE SECOND DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE. THAT IS INDEPENDENCE FROM...
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| 00:26:44 |
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MARKUP. ADDRESSING CLIMATE CHANGE IS ATOLL RESPONSIBILITY. WE'LL HAVE A BASIC RESPONSIBILITY TO LEAVE THIS WORLD TO OUR CHILDREN BETTER THAN WE FOUND.
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| 00:26:57 |
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THE BILL LIEBERMAN AND WARMER WILL HELP ESTABLISH WAR AUTHORITY ON THIS ISSUE. SENATORS LIEBERMAN AND WARMER HAVE CRAFTED A BILL THE ZERO MCGINNIS IS...
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| 00:30:16 |
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RAN MUCH. I WANT TO COMMEND SENATOR WARNER AND LIEBERMAN AND THEIR
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| 00:30:22 |
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EFFORTS. I AM ONE YOU CAN MARK IN THE CATEGORY BELIEVING IN THE GEOPOLITICAL INTERESTS OF THIS COUNTRY IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL INTERESTS OF THIS COUNTRY...
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| 00:31:23 |
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THE SHOW'S 30 YEARS IN THE COMPUTER BUSINESS DIDN'T DO ANYTHING.
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| 00:31:30 |
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MADAM CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP, FOR THE STRONG HAND THAT YOU EMPLOYED AND FOR THE WILLINGNESS TO LISTEN AND TO DISCUSS AND TO OUR COLLEAGUES...
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| 00:33:32 |
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THIS BILL ARE SUPPORTED BY SOUND CLEAR CONSENSUS
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| 00:33:37 |
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SCIENCE. SECOND, WHILE A LOT OF ADVOCATES OF THE BILL TALK ABOUT LONG-TERM AND NEW ENERGY TECHNOLOGY AND I COMPLETELY SUPPORT THOSE NECESSARY EFFORTS,...
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| 00:35:48 |
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SENATOR WARNER AND SENATOR LIEBERMAN FOR THEIR LEADERSHIP. SENATOR
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| 00:35:52 |
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LIEBERMAN FOR THE WAY YOU WORK FOR ALL OF US TO INCLUDE PROVISIONS AND FOR YOUR STARTING US ON THE RIGHT FOOT. SENATOR WARNER I AGREE COMPLETELY. WE...
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| 00:37:12 |
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OUT LIKE TO EMPHASIZE. ONE IS THAT FOSSIL FUELS SUCH AS COAL
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| 00:37:17 |
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ARE VITAL TO ACHIEVING OUR GOALS IN HAVING A CLEANER ENERGY FUTURE. WE CANNOT GET THERE WITHOUT THEM. NUMBER TWO, A STRONG AMERICAN ECONOMY, ONE THAT...
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| 00:38:29 |
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THEIR STAFFS HAD WORKED TOGETHER THE POLITICAL SUPPORT NEEDED TO PASS AS
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| 00:38:34 |
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THE DECISION. WHAT THE LEADING SCIENTISTS OF THE WORLD ARE TELLING US IS MORE AND MORE AND MORE URGENT TONES IS THAT GLOBAL WARMING IS A CATASTROPHIC...
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| 00:42:14 |
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GREAT DEAL, AND HOW WE THINK WE OUGHT TO APPROACH AND HANDLE THIS ISSUE. I'M
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| 00:42:19 |
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GOING TO JOIN YOU THIS WEEKEND IF TIME ALLOWS IN BALLY INDONESIA. THERE WILL BE MY SIXTH CLIMATE CHANGE UN CONFERENCE. AND MY FIRST CLIMATE CHANGE...
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| 00:45:36 |
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THAT HAVE COME IN. WITH AN URGENCY
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| 00:45:38 |
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TO GET THIS ISSUE ADDRESSED. I WAS THINKING BACK TO WHEN WE HAD A COMPROMISE AGREEMENT ON THE CAFE STANDARDS ON THE GAS MILEAGE STANDARDS. I SAT THERE...
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| 05:12:10 |
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BUT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT HOW MUCH CARBON, IT ADDS UP TO A LOT OF MONEY. 65% THAT'S WHAT THE UTILITY WOULD REALIZE. BUT IF YOU CLIMB FROM 65 TO 70, 75,...
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| 05:47:31 |
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I WOULD HAVE TO JOIN THE CHAIRMAN AND OPPOSE IT I JUST FEEL THAT WE SHOULD STICK WITH WHAT WE HAVE. >> OKAY. SO IS THERE A SECOND TO
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| 05:47:50 |
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SENATOR SANDER'S AMENDMENT. YES THERE IS. WOULD YOU LIKE A ROLL CALL VOTE OR A VOICE. A
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| 05:47:58 |
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ROLL CALL VOTE ON THE SANDERS AMENDMENT NO. 3. >> MR. ALEXANDER? MR.
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| 05:48:08 |
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BARASO? MR. BALKAS? >> NO BY PROXY. >> MR. BOND? MR. CARDIN? >> AYE BY PROXY. >> MR.
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| 05:48:27 |
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CARPER? MRS. CLINTON? >> AYE BY PROXY. >> MR.
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CRAIG? >> MR.
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INOUYE? MR.
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ISAACSON? MISS KLOBUCHAR. >> AYE BY PROXY. >> MR.
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LAUTENBERG? >> AYE BY PROXY. >> MR.
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LIEBERMAN? >> NO. >> MR. SANDERS? >>
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AYE. >> MR. VITTER? >> NO. >> MR.
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VOINOVICH? >> NO. >> MR.
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| 05:49:07 |
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WARNER? >>
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NO. >> MR. WHITE
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| 05:49:11 |
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HOUSEHOUSE? >> MRS. CHAIRMAN? >> NO. >>
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| 05:49:28 |
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THE
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| 05:49:30 |
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NAYS IS 13. >> THE AMENDMENT IS DENIED. >> MADAM CHAIRMAN, LET ME GO THROUGH THIS NOT SO MUCH FOR YOUR BENEFIT BUT FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR SIDE. WE'RE...
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| 05:49:45 |
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HERE, HE WOULD HAVE
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| 05:49:46 |
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TWO AMENDMENTS
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| 05:49:47 |
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AND SO WE'LL BREAK OUR CONSEQUENCE WHEN HE ARRIVES IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT. THEN NEXT WOULD BE
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| 05:49:54 |
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SENATOR BARASO, THEN CRAIG, THEN
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| 05:49:56 |
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VITTER, THEN ALEXANDER,
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| 05:49:58 |
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VITTER, THEN ME. NOW I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO RECOGNIZE THREE FOR ALEXANDER TOTAL. >> WE HAVE TWO HERE AND ONE THERE? >> THAT'S CORRECT. I'M...
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| 05:50:27 |
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LIEBERMAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY AMENDMENTS? SENATOR CARPER, ONE AMENDMENT? WHAT?
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| 05:50:35 |
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A COLLOQUY AND AN AMENDMENT?
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| 05:50:38 |
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SENATOR SANDERS, HOW MANY AMENDMENTS DO YOU HAVE LEFT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO OFFER AND HAVE VOTES ON? >> THREE. >> SENATOR KLOBUCHAR, HOW MANY AMENDMENTS?...
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| 05:51:03 |
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BE HERE? SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ON OUR SIDE OF
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| 05:51:07 |
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FIVE AMENDMENTS AND ONE
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| 05:51:12 |
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COLLOQUY? IS THIS THE DEFINITIVE LIST OR IS THERE MORE AFTER
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| 05:51:15 |
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THIS. >> I'LL HAVE FIVE. >> FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, TEN, TWELVE PLUS FIVE OR SIX FROM VOINOVICH. AND FIVE OR SIX FROM BARASO. >> FIVE OR SIX FROM...
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| 05:51:37 |
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FIVE OR SIX FROM YOU. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT, AS I
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| 05:51:41 |
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UNDERSTAND IT, UNLESS THERE'S MORE SENATOR CRAIG HAS MORE? NO. YOU DON'T THINK SO. HE DOES. HOW MANY? HOW MANY DOES SENATOR CRAIG OF. FIVE IN ADDITION...
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| 05:51:53 |
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ONE OR FIVE TOTAL?
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| 05:51:59 |
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OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? SENATOR ALEXANDER? HE'S GOING TO HAVE THREE. OKAY, YES, I HAVE HIM DOWN FOR THREE. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHERE...
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| 05:52:57 |
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SAID IN THE OPENING STATEMENT, I RESERVE THE RIGHT TO USE THE CLOCK. AND WE'LL SEE HOW THESE NEXT TWO AMENDMENTS
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| 05:53:05 |
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GO AND THEN IF WE HAVE TO, WE'LL HAVE YOU VOTE ON IT. I THINK IT'S SILLY
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| 05:53:09 |
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BUT WE'LL HAVE TO BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO DO OUR
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| 05:53:15 |
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WORK. AND I DON'T THINK ANYONE WOULD SAY THAT I HAVE STOPPED PEOPLE FROM SPEAKING, BUT I DO THINK IN DEFERENCE TO OUR JOB AND IN ON FAIR FASHION,...
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| 05:54:07 |
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A QUESTION ON THAT LINE YOUR INTENTION ORIGINALLY AND START TOMORROW AT LIKE 9:00 OR -- >> WELL, WE'RE HOPING TO
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| 05:54:15 |
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FINISH TONIGHT. THAT'S MY INTENTION. SO LET'S JUST KEEP GOING. AND, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT UNDER THE COMMITTEE RULES, WE CAN PUT ALL THE AMENDMENTS...
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| 05:54:28 |
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TO PUT ALL THE AMENDMENTS ON THE BLOCK, WE'LL DO THAT. BUT THAT'S WHY I'M TRYING TO MOVE THEM. LET'S GO,
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| 05:54:35 |
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SENATOR BARASO. >> I'D ASK AMENDMENT BARASO AMENDMENT NO. 2 BE ADMITTED. THIS IS AN AMENDMENT THAT I'M COSPONSORING WITH SENATOR BAUCUS. I HOPED TO...
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| 05:54:58 |
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THE ROCKY MOUNTAIN CENTERS FOR COAL UTILIZATION. IT'S VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD. AND IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I'LL JUST ASK DISCUSSION AND VOTE. >> FIRST...
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| 05:55:30 |
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THE AYES HAVE IT. SENATOR, DO YOU WANT TO DO ANOTHER AMENDMENT. BA THEN WE'LL GO ON OUR LIST SENATOR CARPER OR SENATOR SANDERS? WHAT WOULD YOU PREFER?...
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| 05:56:17 |
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BREAD. I COULDN'T HELP BUT NOTICE WHEN LUNCH WAS OVER, THERE WERE CARDBOARD CONTAINERS THAT THE PIZZAS THEY CAME IN. THEY WERE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO...
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| 05:57:05 |
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JUST THE
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| 05:57:07 |
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FIRST DEGREE HANDOUT. AND AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME, SENATOR, I WOULD OFFER SECOND DEGREE. >> ALL RIGHT. THANKS. ACCORDING TO
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| 05:57:19 |
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EPA, RECYCLING IS PROJECTED TO HAVE SAVED
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| 05:57:24 |
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900 TRILLION B.T.U.s EQUAL OF 9 MILLION HOUSEHOLDS IN
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| 05:57:29 |
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2005 BUT THAT'S GOOD BUT WE COULD DO A WHOLE LOT BETTER. EACH YEAR SOME 120,000 TONS OF ALUMINUM, 129 BOTTLES
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| 05:57:37 |
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AND CANS ARE THROWN AWAY THAT COULD HAVE BEEN RECYCLED. IN FACT, ACCORDING TO THE CONTAINER RECYCLING INSTITUTE RECYCLING RATES, THEY DECLINED NATIONWIDE...
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| 06:00:14 |
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FOR OFFSETS AND WE'RE SAYING BECAUSE WE'VE TALKED TO A LOT OF ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS THE EPA AND OTHERS THAT SAY WELL, WE'RE NOT SURE WE'RE READY YET,...
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| 06:01:26 |
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THE FIXED
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| 06:01:28 |
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INCOME, LOWER INCOME PEOPLE. AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROVISION. I DO WANT TO
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| 06:01:33 |
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GET AN ANALYSIS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW OF YOUR SECOND DEGREE AMENDMENT. BUT AS FAR AS THE UNDERLYING AMENDMENT, I DO SUPPORT IT. >> THANK YOU...
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| 06:02:00 |
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COMMISSIONER RANDY JOHNSON.
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| 06:02:02 |
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AND I THINK IT'S PART OF THE
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| 06:02:03 |
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REASON OUR STATE IS MUCH MORE OPEN TO CHANGES AND SEIZE THIS OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE OF CLIMATE CHANGE. BECAUSE INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO...
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| 06:02:40 |
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TOLEDO, AND I WAS SHOCKED
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| 06:02:42 |
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WHEN THE CHAIRMAN OF
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| 06:02:43 |
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THAT COMPANY TOLD ME THAT ONLY ABOUT
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| 06:02:45 |
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A THIRD OF THE GLASS IN THE UNITED STATES IS PRODUCED FROM RECYCLED GLASS WHERE OVER IN EUROPE IT'S ALMOST ALL RECYCLED. SO THERE WAS A PERIOD HERE WHERE...
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| 06:03:33 |
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FIRST, WE'LL MOVE THE AMENDMENT. IS THERE A SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE? OPPOSE? IT PASSES. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE? ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY. IN THE...
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| 06:04:15 |
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HERE? >>
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| 06:04:19 |
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THE COLLOQUY
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| 06:04:20 |
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IS FINE. >> AND ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS NOD YOUR HEAD. >> ALL I HAVE TO DO IS SAY YES. >> COLLEAGUES, AS YOU MAY RECALL THE MONTREAL PROTOCOL IS AN
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| 06:04:30 |
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EXAMPLE OF
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| 06:04:31 |
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A VERY SUCCESSFUL MULTINATIONAL
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| 06:04:33 |
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ENVIRONMENTAL
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| 06:04:34 |
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INITIATIVE. UNDER THE MONTREAL PROTOCOL, U.S. CORPORATIONS AGREED TO REPLACE
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| 06:04:41 |
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OZONE DEPLETING PRODUCTS
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| 06:04:42 |
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OF CFCs, PROTOCOL
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| 06:04:45 |
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HAS BEEN KOFI ANNAN
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| 06:04:47 |
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AS PERHAPS THE MOST SINGLE SUCCESSFUL INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENT TO DATE. UNFORTUNATELY, THE SAME CANNOT BE SAID OF THE KYOTO PROTOCOL. THE PRODUCTS THAT...
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| 06:08:53 |
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OCCURRING AS WE WORK THIS BILL INTO LAW. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND NOW WE'LL TURN TO SENATOR VITTER. >> THANK YOU, MADAM...
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| 06:09:16 |
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I'LL BEGIN TO EXPLAIN IF THAT'S
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| 06:09:17 |
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OKAY. >> PLEASE, YES. GO AHEAD. >> AS IT'S BEING DISTRIBUTED. AS I'VE SAID, MADAM CHAIRMAN, I HAVE A
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| 06:09:24 |
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BIG, BIG CONCERN THAT THIS BILL WILL MAKE AN ALREADY SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM A LOT WORSE, AND THAT
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| 06:09:34 |
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PROBLEM IS
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| 06:09:36 |
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PUSHING JOBS, TYPICALLY MANUFACTURING
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| 06:09:38 |
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JOBS, OVERSEAS. THAT'S
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| 06:09:40 |
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GOING ON NOW. CERTAINLY, INCLUDING IN INDUSTRIES THAT ARE REALLY IMPORTANT IN LOUISIANA LIKE THE CHEMISTRY BECAUSE OF THE PRICE OF NATURAL GAS, BECAUSE...
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| 06:12:01 |
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DAVID OR TINA OR ERIC OR CHELSEA TO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. I DON'T THINK WE DO ANYTHING TO WEAKEN THE CLEAN AIR ACT OR WEAKEN ANY OF OUR OTHER...
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| 06:13:11 |
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EFFORTS.
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| 06:13:13 |
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I THINK IT CAN BE OTHERWISE BECAUSE SOME OF THE PROVISIONS OF THIS BILL, I
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| 06:13:18 |
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BELIEVE, ARE CLEARLY GOING TO PUSH MANUFACTURING JOBS OVERSEAS AT A GREATER RATE THAN THEY ARE GOING ALREADY. IF THAT HAPPENS, IF SIGNIFICANT MANUFACTURING...
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| 06:14:10 |
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ALL. AND I WOULD HAVE TO SAY, SENATORS LIEBERMAN AND WARNER, ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF CHINA AND INDIA AND OTHERS DOING NOTHING. THAT'S ADDRESSED IN THE BILL....
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| 06:14:55 |
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IMPACT. THAT CERTAINLY
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| 06:14:56 |
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HAS EVERYTHING TO
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| 06:14:58 |
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DO WITH THE BILL. CERTAINLY, IF THIS IS PASSED INTO LAW, I
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| 06:15:01 |
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HOPE YOU'RE RIGHT. I HOPE I'M
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| 06:15:04 |
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WRONG.
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| 06:15:06 |
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I HOPE IT DOESN'T HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT. AND IF IT DOES, WE'LL CALL A TIMEOUT. I THINK WHETHER IT HAS A POSITIVE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OR NOT IS NOT...
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| 06:15:59 |
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ISSUES. SO WE'LL HAVE A ROLL COUNT ON THOSE VOTES. >> SENATOR ALEXANDER? >> AYE BY PROXY. >> MR. BARRASSO? >> NO BY PROXY. >> MR. CARDIN? >> NO BY PROXY....
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| 06:16:25 |
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| 06:16:26 |
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CARPER? >> NO. >> MRS. CLINTON? >> NO BY PROXY. >> MR. CRAIG? MR.
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| 06:16:34 |
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INHOFE? >> AYE. >> MR. ISAACSON? >>
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| 06:16:38 |
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| 06:16:40 |
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AYE BY PROXY. >> MISS
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| 06:16:43 |
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KLOBUCHAR? MR. LAUTENBERG? >> NO
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| 06:16:46 |
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BY PROXY. >>
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| 06:16:47 |
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MR.
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| 06:16:48 |
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LIEBERMAN? >> NO. >> MR.
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| 06:16:51 |
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SANDERS? >>
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| 06:16:52 |
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NO. >> MR. VITTER? >> YES. >>
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| 06:16:56 |
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| 06:16:57 |
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MR. VOINOVICH? >> AYE. >>
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| 06:17:01 |
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MR. WARNER? >> NO
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| 06:17:04 |
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BY PROXY. >>
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| 06:17:06 |
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MR. WHITEHOUSE? >> NO BY PROXY. >>
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| 06:17:09 |
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MADAM
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| 06:17:11 |
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| 06:17:12 |
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CHAIRMAN? >> NO. >>
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| 06:17:15 |
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MADAM CHAIRMAN,
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| 06:17:20 |
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THE AYES ARE
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| 06:17:22 |
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8 AND THE NO'S ARE 11. >> I WOULD LIKE
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| 06:17:25 |
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TO CALL
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| 06:17:26 |
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UP SANDERS AMENDMENT
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| 06:17:28 |
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NO. 4. >>
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| 06:17:33 |
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SANDERS AMENDMENT NO. 4. >> MADAM CHAIR, THIS AMENDMENT IS COSPONSORED
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| 06:17:41 |
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BY A NUMBER OF OUR COLLEAGUES, SENATORS LAWSUITERSBERG, WHITEHOUSE,
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| 06:17:47 |
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SENATOR CLINTON AND SENATOR KLOBUCHAR, AND I THANK THEM VERY MUCH FOR THEIR SUPPORT. MADAM CHAIR, THIS AMENDMENT IS ALSO SUPPORTED BY VIRTUALLY ...
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| 06:17:57 |
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EARTH, THE NATURAL RESOURCES DEFENSE
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| 06:17:59 |
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COUNCIL, THE U.S. PUBLIC INTEREST RESEARCH GROUP, THE UNION OF CONCERNED SCIENTISTS, THE CENTER FOR AMERICAN PROGRESS ACTION FUND, THE SIERRA CLUBS...
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| 06:20:50 |
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MY FRIENDS ON THE OTHER SIDE. IF YOU KNOW MORE THAN THE
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| 06:20:56 |
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WORLD'S LEADING SCIENTISTS WHO HAVE COME BEFORE US, PLEASE TELL ME WHAT YOU KNOW THAT THEY DON'T KNOW. THIS IS NOT -- I FAILED PHYSICS TWICE IN COLLEGE....
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| 06:21:53 |
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THEREFORE, IN MY MIND A DIFFERENT
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| 06:21:56 |
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SITUATION. 'CAUSE IT DOESN'T REALLY CHANGE ANYTHING ELSE. IT'S JUST A GOAL THAT IS A HIGHER GOAL
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| 06:22:01 |
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WITHOUT CHANGING ANYTHING ELSE IN THE BILL. SO I VIEW IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. BUT IT'S TRUE. THE CHAIRMAN'S MARK DID HAVE IT AT APPROXIMATELY...
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| 06:22:41 |
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SOMETHING THAT SENATOR SANDERS WAS SILENT. FIRST OF ALL, SENATOR SANDERS HAS BEEN AN INSPIRATION TO A LOT OF PEOPLE AROUND THE COUNTRY ON THIS ISSUE....
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| 06:22:54 |
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AGAIN, I KNOW THAT MANY -- EACH OF
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| 06:22:56 |
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US COULD WRITE THIS BILL IN HIS OR HER OWN WAY. THAT GOES FOR REPUBLICANS
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| 06:23:00 |
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AS WELL AS DEMOCRATS. AND I SO APPRECIATE THE CONSTRUCTIVE ROLE YOU HAVE PLAYED IN MOVING IT. NOW, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS, IF I CAN. I WOULD LIKE...
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| 06:24:16 |
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MY OWN STATE. JUST REGULAR
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| 06:24:18 |
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PEOPLE WHO ARE
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| 06:24:19 |
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STARTING TO SEE FIRSTHAND THE CHANGE, WHETHER THEY LIVE IN ALASKA AND SEE THE PERMAFROST MELTING OR WHETHER THEY LIVE ON THE COAST AND SEE THE SEA LEVELS...
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| 06:25:29 |
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CALLED ROCKS AND STARS. SO WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE AS WE
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| 06:25:33 |
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COME TO IT WITH OUR OWN INHERENT SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE AND, THEREFORE, RESPECT FOR SCIENCE. I DO RESPECT THE SCIENCE AND I THINK WE HAVE AN URGENT...
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| 06:28:30 |
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I WOULD JUST APPEAL TO YOU TO CHANGE THE POLITICAL
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| 06:28:33 |
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DYNAMIC
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| 06:28:35 |
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THAT WE
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| 06:28:36 |
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HAVE AND GO INTO YOUR OWN HEARTS AND REALLY TRY TO LISTEN TO WHAT THE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY TELL US WE NEED TO DO LONG-TERM FOR THE FUTURE OF THE PLANET....
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| 06:29:08 |
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BY PROXY. >> MR. CARDIN? >>
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| 06:29:12 |
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| 06:29:13 |
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AYE BY PROXY. >> MR.
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| 06:29:20 |
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CARPER? >> NO. >>
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| 06:29:21 |
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MRS. CLINTON? >> AYE BY
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| 06:29:25 |
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PROXY. >> MR. CRAIG? MR.
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| 06:29:31 |
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INHOFE? >> NO. >> MR.
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| 06:29:35 |
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ISAACSON? MS. KLOBUCHAR? >> AYE. >> MR.
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| 06:29:40 |
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LAUTENBERG? >>
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| 06:29:41 |
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AYE BY PROXY. >> MR.
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| 06:29:46 |
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LIEBERMAN? >> NO. >> MR.
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| 06:29:49 |
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SANDERS? >> AYE. >>
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| 06:29:52 |
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MR.
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| 06:29:55 |
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| 06:29:58 |
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VITTER? MR.
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| 06:30:00 |
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VOINOVICH? >> NO. >> MR.
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| 06:30:03 |
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WARNER? >> NO BY PROXY. >> MR.
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| 06:30:06 |
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WHITEHOUSE? >> AYE BY
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| 06:30:09 |
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PROXY. >> MADAM
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| 06:30:10 |
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CHAIRMAN? >> AYE. >> MADAM CHAIRMAN,
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| 06:30:18 |
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THE AYES ARE
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| 06:30:21 |
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7. THE NAYS ARE 12. >>
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| 06:30:23 |
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THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED
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| 06:30:25 |
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TO. THANK YOU,
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| 06:30:26 |
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SENATOR SANDERS AND WE GO TO
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| 06:30:29 |
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SENATOR
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| 06:30:33 |
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CRAIG. >> SINCE SENATOR
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| 06:30:34 |
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ALEXANDER HAS RETURNED, HE WAS AHEAD TO GO SENATOR CRAIG? >> I COULD
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| 06:30:40 |
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ENTICE YOU A LITTLE BIT. I CAN GET RID OF 10 AMENDMENTS IN
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| 06:30:43 |
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ONE. >> I'M READY. OH, YEA! >> SENATOR CRAIG IS RECOGNIZED. >> BUT IT'S YOUR CALL. >> LET ME ASK SENATOR ALEXANDER. DO YOU WISH TO GO NOW? >> I WILL BE...
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| 06:30:57 |
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TO DEFER. I'M EMBARRASSED
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| 06:31:00 |
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TO SAY THAT I HAVE TO LEAVE AT 4:25 BUT I WILL COME BACK WITHIN A FEW MINUTES AND I'LL STAY
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| 06:31:06 |
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UNTIL MIDNIGHT SO I'LL BE GLAD IF SENATOR CRAIG WOULD
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| 06:31:11 |
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LIKE TO DISPOSE OF 10
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| 06:31:13 |
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AMENDMENTS. >>
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| 06:31:14 |
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THAT'S THE ACT OF A TRUE LEADER. [LAUGHTER] >>
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| 06:31:19 |
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I'M A BIT -- I'M A BIT TROUBLED BY THAT. IS MY ACTION A LACK -- FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU SENATOR ALEXANDER AND MADAM CHAIR I WAS SINCERE IN WHAT I SAID...
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| 06:31:36 |
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OFFER IT AND THAT IS AMENDMENT
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| 06:31:41 |
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NO. 10 AND A SECOND DEGREE TO THAT AMENDMENT. THE CRAIG AMENDMENT NO. 10. IT'S SECOND DEGREED IN AGREEMENT WITH SENATOR WARNER WHICH I BELIEVE ALLOWS...
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| 06:32:18 |
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AND THAT'S THE WORD THAT IS ADDED. >> THE EXTENT OF
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| 06:32:22 |
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WHICH -- >> THE EXTENT OF WHICH AND THE MANNER IN WHICH. AND
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| 06:32:28 |
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THE REASON I DO THAT -- AND THE REASON I BRING THIS AMENDMENT -- THIS IS ONE OF
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| 06:32:33 |
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10 AMENDMENTS THAT DEAL WITH FORESTRY AND SEQUESTRATION. AND SO BECAUSE OF THAT, I WOULD ASK FOR A MINUTE OR TWO MORE
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| 06:32:42 |
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TO LAY OUT A BROADER
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| 06:32:45 |
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PICTURE. THAT IS IMPORTANT, I THINK, FOR ALL OF US BECAUSE THIS IS TRULY AN AMENDMENT THAT FITS THIS BILL, MADAM CHAIR. >> SENATOR INHOFE AND I ARE CONFUSED....
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| 06:33:16 |
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THAT'S WHAT GOT ME CONFUSED. >> IF MANY OF US WILL HARKEN
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| 06:33:20 |
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BACK JUST A FEW YEARS, MADAM CHAIR, WHEN WE WERE WATCHING
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| 06:33:25 |
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THE RATIFICATION OF KYOTO, ONE OF THE GAINS THAT
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| 06:33:29 |
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THE SOVIET UNION AT THAT TIME OR RUSSIA WAS
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| 06:33:32 |
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PLAYING WAS HOW MUCH CREDIT COULD THEY GET FOR THEIR SIBERIAN FORESTS? AND HOW COULD THEY ENTER IN AND
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| 06:33:39 |
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WHAT COULD THEY GET? THEY WERE GAMING THE SYSTEM OUT OF A PHENOMENAL ABILITY OF THAT COUNTRY TO SEQUESTER CARBON. AND AS A RESULT, THEY FINALLY SIGNED...
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| 06:36:42 |
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ESTABLISH THE BASELINE AND HOW YOU GROW FROM THAT WITH ADDITIONALITY AS IT RELATES TO THE DYNAMICS OF THE CHANGING OF FORESTS.
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| 06:36:52 |
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LASTLY, AND I KNOW ENVIRONMENTAL INTERESTS HATE TO HEAR ME SAY THIS. WHEN YOU CUT A TREE OR PUT IT IN A HOUSE OR IN A PIECE OF FURNITURE, THE CARBON...
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| 06:37:55 |
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THE LOSS OF LIFE AND THE PROPERTY AND THE REST IS VERY MUCH -- I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR YOU TO RAISE HERE. >> THANK YOU. >> AND TO HAVE A STUDY ON...
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| 06:38:21 |
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AMENDMENT TO
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| 06:38:22 |
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THE CRAIG NO. 10 IS. ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSE SAY NO. DOES THE SENATOR WANT A ROLL CALL OR CAN WE GO WITH THE VOICE....
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| 06:39:01 |
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SOME TIME BY NOT EVEN OFFERING THE AMENDMENT IF YOU WILL -- IF
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| 06:39:05 |
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I COULD ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO SPEAK FOR ONE MOMENT ABOUT THE AMENDMENT. >> OF COURSE. >>
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| 06:39:10 |
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I AM VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THE CHAIRMAN TO PUT IN HER AMENDMENT CHAIRMAN'S MARK INCLUDING THE 1% FOR PUBLIC TRANSIT. I THINK THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT ...
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| 06:39:29 |
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ON AN AMENDMENT DEALING WITH THE TRANSPORTATION SENATOR. I KNOW SENATOR LAUTENBERG
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| 06:39:33 |
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WAS ALSO DEALING WITH THE TRANSPORTATION SECTOR. I MEAN, I AM NOT GOING TO PURSUE AN ADDITIONAL AMENDMENT AT THIS TIME BUT I WILL TAKE THE CHAIRMAN...
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| 06:40:35 |
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READY WITH ANOTHER AMENDMENT? >> THANK YOU. >> AND THEN WE'LL GO TO SENATOR ALEXANDER. >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIRMAN. AND MY COLLEAGUES, THANK YOU FOR...
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| 06:40:56 |
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CAN. >> THIS AMENDMENT
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| 06:40:58 |
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IS COSPONSORED BY SENATORS WHITEHOUSE AND
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| 06:41:01 |
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LAUTENBERG. IT DEALS WITH SCIENTIFIC LOOK-BACK, AND THIS AMENDMENT ALSO HAS VERY WIDESPREAD SUPPORT FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMUNITY AMONG OTHER ORGANIZATIONS,...
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| 06:41:14 |
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INTEREST RESEARCH GROUP, NATIONAL WILDLIFE FEDERATION, GREENPEACE, NATURAL RESOURCES
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| 06:41:19 |
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DEFENSE COUNCIL, UNION FOR CONCERNED SCIENTISTS, SIERRA CLUB, LEAGUE OF CONSERVATION VOTERS AND EARTH JUSTICE. MADAM CHAIR, GIVEN THAT THE EFFORT TO...
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| 06:45:04 |
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THE
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| 06:45:05 |
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NAS BASED ON MODELS THAT CAN'T REPRODUCE PAST CLIMATE CONDITIONS MUCH LESS PREDICT CLIMATE PREDICTIONS IN THE FUTURES. THERE'S NO RECOGNITION THAT...
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| 06:45:20 |
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HEAR? OH, GOOD. [LAUGHTER] >> GO AHEAD. >> I WON'T REPEAT IT. BUT THERE IS NO RECOGNITION HERE THAT THE UNITED STATES HAS BEEN OVERTAKEN BY CHINA'S...
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| 06:45:38 |
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PASSED BY INDIA. THE LAST TIME I
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| 06:45:40 |
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CHECKED, THESE ARE SOVEREIGN GOVERNMENTS BEYOND THE REACH OF THE EPA
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| 06:45:44 |
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AND LAWSUITS BY GROUPS LIKE THE
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| 06:45:46 |
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NRDC THAT YOU REFERRED TO SEVERAL TIMES. SO HOW DO WE DICTATE EMISSION CAPS IN THESE COUNTRIES? I DON'T THINK WE CAN. I HAVE MIXED EMOTIONS ON THIS....
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| 06:46:26 |
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OUGHT TO DO IT. IN FACT, YOU KNOW, WHO KNOWS WHO'S GOING TO BE THE HEAD OF THE EPA. A PARTICULAR HEAD OF EPA COULD DO SOMETHING THAT SENATOR SANDERS...
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| 06:47:50 |
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HAVE ADDED AN EXPLICIT AMENDMENTS OF A REVIEW OF THE EPA EMISSIONS. IT MAKES IT CLEAR THAT CONGRESS WILL HAVE A CHECK AND BALANCE ROLE IN ANY RULE-MAKING...
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| 06:49:09 |
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CARDIN? MR. CARPER? [APPLAUSE] CLINTON? >> AYE BY PROXY. >> PR CRAIG? >>
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| 06:49:18 |
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NO, BY PROXY. >>
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| 06:49:21 |
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MR. INHOFE? >>
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| 06:49:22 |
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| 06:49:24 |
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NO. >> MR. ISAACSON? MS. KLOBUCHAR? >>
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| 06:49:30 |
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NO. >> MR. LAUTENBERG?
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| 06:49:36 |
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MR. LIEBERMAN? >>
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| 06:49:37 |
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| 06:49:39 |
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NO. >>
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| 06:49:41 |
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MR. SANDERS? >> YES. [LAUGHTER] >>
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| 06:49:44 |
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MR. VISITOR? >>
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| 06:49:49 |
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MR.
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| 06:49:50 |
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JOIN SIT? -- VOINOVICH? >> NO. >> MR. WARNER? >> NO,
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| 06:49:55 |
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BY PROXY. >> MR.
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| 06:49:59 |
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WHITEHOUSE? >>
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| 06:50:01 |
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NO,
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| 06:50:03 |
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PRI -- BY PROXY. >> MADAM CHAIRMAN? >>
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| 06:50:07 |
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AYE. >> MADAM CHAIRMAN,
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| 06:50:11 |
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THE YEAS ARE SEVEN, THE NAYS
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| 06:50:13 |
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ARE 12. >>
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| 06:50:14 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO, AND
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| 06:50:17 |
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WHERE'S
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| 06:50:19 |
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SENATOR ALEXANDER? IT'S JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, RUN ANYTHING AND RUNNING OUT. SO NOW WE HAVE TO GO TO SOMETHING
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| 06:50:25 |
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ELSE. >>
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| 06:50:26 |
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THAT'D ACTUALLY BE SENATOR VITTER THEN. DID YOU
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| 06:50:30 |
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HAVE
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| 06:50:32 |
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ONE? >> WELL, GO AHEAD,
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| 06:50:35 |
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SENATOR. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN. I ASK AT THIS TIME THE AMENDMENT NUMBER 6 BE PASSED OUT. >> AND HOW MANY DO YOU HAVE IN TOTAL THAT YOU PLAN TO...
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| 06:50:47 |
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FOUR MORE. >> OKAY. >> MADAM CHAIRMAN, IN WYOMING WE ARE BLESSED WITH THE WORLD'S LARGEST TOE
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| 06:50:55 |
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THAT DEPOSIT
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| 06:50:57 |
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AND UNDERGROUND MINES COVER HUNDREDS OF MILES. THE SODA ASH INDUSTRY IS UNDER A HEALTH AND SAFETY
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| 06:51:03 |
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MANDATE SPECIFICALLY UNDER FEDERAL MINE
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| 06:51:06 |
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SAFETY AND HEALTH ADMINISTRATION REGULATIONS. U.S.
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| 06:51:10 |
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SODA ASH
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| 06:51:11 |
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MANUFACTURERS ARE REQUIRE TODDY LUTE AND THEN RENDER HARM THROES WORMERS -- HARMLESS TO WORKERS. IN COMPLIANCE WITH THESE REGULATIONS, THE FOUR PRODUCERS...
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| 06:52:46 |
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AND LANDFILLS REDUCE THEIR EMISSIONS. SO I FEEL THIS IS NOT NECESSARY, AND I BELIEVE THAT THE AUTHORS OF THE BILL OPPOSE THIS AS I WILL AS WELL. ...
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| 06:53:24 |
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WELL, WE BELIEVE IT WOULD
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| 06:53:27 |
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ALLOW MAJOR INCREASES
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| 06:53:29 |
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IN GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS SO WE
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| 06:53:31 |
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OPPOSE IT. >>
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| 06:53:32 |
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DO YOU WISH TO RECORD
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| 06:53:34 |
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A VOTE, SIR? >> ACTUALLY YES, I WOULD, MADAM CARRIAGE. >> ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A SECOND, SO WILL THE CLERK, PLEASE, CALL THE ROLL? >>
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| 06:53:46 |
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MR. ALEXANDER? >> AYE, BY PROXY. >> MR. BAUCUS? >> NO, BY PROXY. >> MR. BOND? >>
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| 06:53:54 |
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AYE, BY PROXY. >> MR. CARDIN? >> NO, BY
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| 06:53:59 |
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PROXY. >>
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| 06:54:01 |
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MR. CARPER? >> NO. >> MRS. CLINTON? >> NO, BY PROXY. >>
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| 06:54:07 |
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MR. CRAIG? >> AYE, BY
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| 06:54:09 |
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APPROXIMATE SI. >>
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| 06:54:10 |
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MR. INHOFE? >>
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| 06:54:12 |
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AYE. >>
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| 06:54:13 |
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MR.
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| 06:54:15 |
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| 06:54:16 |
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ISAACSON? MS. KLOBUCHAR? >> NO, BY PROXY. >> MR. LAUTENBERG? >>
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| 06:54:20 |
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NO, BY PROXY. >>
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| 06:54:22 |
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| 06:54:23 |
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MR.
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| 06:54:24 |
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LIEBERMAN? MR. SANDERS? >>
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| 06:54:26 |
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NO. >> MR.
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| 06:54:27 |
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VITTER? >> YES. >>
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| 06:54:29 |
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MR.
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| 06:54:31 |
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| 06:54:32 |
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VOINOVICH? MR. WARNER? >> NO, BY
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| 06:54:36 |
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PROXY. >> MR. WHITEHOUSE? >>
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| 06:54:38 |
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NO, BY
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| 06:54:39 |
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PROXY. >> MADAM CHAIRMAN? >>
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| 06:54:41 |
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| 06:54:44 |
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| 06:54:46 |
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| 06:54:47 |
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| 06:54:48 |
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NO. >> MADAM CHAIRMAN, THE YEAS ARE EIGHT, THE NAYS ARE 11. >> THE AMENDMENT
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| 06:54:54 |
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IS NOT AGREED
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| 06:54:56 |
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TO. [INAUDIBLE
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| 06:54:57 |
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| 06:54:59 |
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| 06:55:00 |
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CONVERSATIONS] >> YEAH. I'M GOING BACK AND FORTH. >> OKAY. >> IS THAT
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| 06:55:08 |
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CORRECT? 8-11? OKAY,
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| 06:55:11 |
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THE AMENDMENT FAILS. >> IF OTHER PEOPLE COULD GO IN
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| 06:55:14 |
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FRONT OF ME, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. >> FINE. I BELIEVE, AM I NOT CORRECT, THAT THAT WOULD BE YOUR LAST AMENDMENT? >> THAT IS CORRECT. >>
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| 06:55:21 |
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AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WE HAVE NO OTHER AMENDMENTS ON
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| 06:55:24 |
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OUR SIDE OF THE AISLE, IS THAT CORRECT, EVERYONE? ALL RIGHT. SO WE ARE
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| 06:55:29 |
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NOW FOCUSED ON SENATOR BAA OS SEW. >> THANK YOU,
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| 06:55:33 |
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MADAM CHAIRMAN. >> ALL RIGHT. >> I WOULD ASK THAT
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| 06:55:36 |
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AMENDMENT NUMBER 10 BE
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| 06:55:40 |
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BROUGHT OUT. >> GO AHEAD, SIR. >>
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| 06:55:42 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THIS AMENDMENT PROVIDES ASSISTANCE TO THE SMALL REFINERS. THE HOME STATE OF WYOMING, LIKE MANY OTHER STATES, IS THE HOME OF MANY
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| 06:55:53 |
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SMALL REFINERS. THERE
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| 06:55:54 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
ARE SMALL
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| 06:55:56 |
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OPERATIONS IN TOWN UNLIKE THE
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| 06:56:01 |
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LARGER REFINERIES, THE SMALLER REFINERS
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| 06:56:03 |
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WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SURVIVE THE ADDITIONAL COST WITHOUT ASSISTANCE IN THE FORM OF EMISSION ALLOWANCES. THIS AMENDMENT PROVIDES 1% TO GO TO THE SMALL...
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| 06:57:18 |
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THE AMT. SO AS YOU SEE, WE ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE SITUATION HERE BY GETTING OUR WORK DONE TODAY. THIS IS A FORTUNATE COINCIDENCE THAT NOT MUCH...
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| 06:58:35 |
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BE ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY FOR US. IN FACT, WE FEEL THAT IF WE DON'T DO THIS, IT WOULD DRASTICALLY INCREASE THE FUEL SHORTAGES IN THE AREAS WHERE WE,...
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| 06:59:19 |
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GOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SENATOR. NOW, ARE YOU READY, SENATOR SANDERS? WE CAN KEEP ONGOING ON OUR SIDE. ALL RIGHT,
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| 06:59:27 |
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SENATOR? >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THIS IS MY LAST AMENDMENT. AND AGAIN, I THANK
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| 06:59:33 |
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MY COLLEAGUES ALL RIGHT, WELL. THIS AMENDMENT,
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| 06:59:39 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
IN FACT, IS, IS THE CLINTON/SANDERS AMENDMENT. IT'S BEING OFFERED ON BEHALF OF SENATOR CLINTON AND MYSELF. THIS
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| 06:59:49 |
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AMENDMENT IS SUPPORTED BY THE FRIENDS OF THE EARTH U.S. PUBLIC INTEREST RESEARCH GROUP, THE CENTER FOR AMERICAN ACTION FUN, SIERRA CLUB, EARTH JUSTICE,...
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| 07:01:03 |
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ALLOWANCES OR THE RIGHT TO POLLUTE UNDER THE CAP AND TRADE PROGRAM.
|
| 07:01:06 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
AND AS MY COLLEAGUES KNOW, THERE ARE ESSENTIALLY TWO OPTIONS HERE. THE GOVERNED CAN EITHER GIVE COMPANIES OR SECTORS PERMITS FOR FREE, OR IT CAN AUCTION...
|
| 07:04:42 |
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TAX. I'VE OFTEN SAID THAT GIVEN THE
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| 07:04:45 |
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CHOICE BETWEEN THE SYSTEM THAT WE'RE ADOPTING IN THIS PROGRAM AND A TAX, I WOULD PREFER --
|
| 07:04:52 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
IT'S KIND OF LIKE
|
| 07:04:54 |
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CHOOSING BETWEEN CANCER AND DIPHTHERIA, AND I THINK IN THIS CASE I'LL TAKE DIPHTHERIA BECAUSE IT IS MORE TRANSPARENT. FOR THAT REASON INSTEAD OF CONGRESS...
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| 07:05:38 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
ASKING A LOT OF POWER
|
| 07:05:42 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
PLANTS AND INDUSTRIAL FACILITIES, AND THE ALLOWANCES, THE QUOTE FREE ALLOWANCES, I GUESS THEY ARE. BUT THEY'RE REALLY TRANSITIONAL PAYMENT IS THE A...
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| 07:07:20 |
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ALLOWANCES, ALLOWANCE COST
|
| 07:07:22 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
IS GOING TO
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| 07:07:23 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
BE SUBSTANTIAL BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THERE'LL BE X NUMBER OF THEM OUT THERE, AND THEY'LL BE COMPETING FOR THEM, AND THE COST WILL BE VERY HIGH....
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| 07:08:58 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
TO POLLUTE WERE SOMETHING LIKE, OH, 23, 24% COULD BE AUCTIONED. AND OVER TIME, I THINK, BY 2036 GRADUALLY WE WENT TO A FULL AUCTION. DOES THAT SOUND...
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| 07:09:34 |
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HAVES. WE STARTED AT 52% OF THE ALLOWANCES FOR FREE TO EMIT, THE ORS IN 2012. NOW WE START AT 43% OF THE ALLOWANCES FOR FREE IN 2012, AND IT FALLS...
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| 07:10:39 |
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FOR RETRO -- THERE WAS EXISTING COAL-FIRED FACILITIES THAT WERE RETROFITTED TO DO SEQUESTRATION. THEY COULD EARN SOME KIND OF ADDITIONAL CREDITS, BUT...
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| 07:11:51 |
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TO IMPLEMENT SEQUESTRATION. A VOTE FOR THIS AMENDMENT, HOWEVER WELL INTENTIONED, TAKES THAT AWAY IN OUR ABILITY TO SAY TO A COAL UTILITY THAT YOU'RE GOING...
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| 07:12:01 |
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THAT WE'RE GOING TO INCENTIVIZE YOU FINANCIALLY, FOR US TO TAKE THAT AWAY IS, I THINK A BIG MISTAKE. AND I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WOULD NOT DO. THAT. >>...
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| 07:12:30 |
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SENATOR SANDERS IS OFFERING AND SECONDING. OKAY? AND IS THERE A NEED
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| 07:12:36 |
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FOR A ROLL CALL ON THIS? OKAY. CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL -- SORRY. WELL, WHY DON'T WE DO THE FIRST ROUND, AND WE'LL WITHHOLD THE PROXIES WE DON'T KNOW...
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| 07:13:37 |
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MR.
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| 07:13:40 |
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CARPER? MRS. CLINTON? >> AYE BY PROXY. >>
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| 07:13:46 |
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MR.
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| 07:13:47 |
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CRAIG? >>
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| 07:13:49 |
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| 07:13:50 |
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WE'LL WITHHOLD
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| 07:13:51 |
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IN CRAIG. >> MR. INHOFE? >> AYE. >>
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| 07:13:55 |
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MR.
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| 07:13:56 |
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ISAACSON? >> NO. >> MS. KLOBUCHAR? >> NO. >>
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| 07:14:01 |
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MR. LAUTENBERG? >> PASS FOR NOW. >>
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| 07:14:05 |
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MR. LIEBERMAN? >>
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| 07:14:07 |
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NO. >> MR.
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| 07:14:11 |
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| 07:14:12 |
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SANDERS? MR. VITTER? >>
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| 07:14:14 |
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NO. >>
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| 07:14:16 |
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MR.
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| 07:14:17 |
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VOINOVICH? >>
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| 07:14:19 |
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NO. >> MR.
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| 07:14:20 |
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WARNER? >> NO, BY
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| 07:14:23 |
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PROXY. >>
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| 07:14:24 |
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MR.
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| 07:14:25 |
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WHITEHOUSE? >>
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| 07:14:27 |
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PASS. >> MADAM CHAIRMAN? >> NO. >> SENATOR CRAIG IS
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| 07:14:32 |
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BACK. >> SENATOR CRAIG, THIS IS
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| 07:14:35 |
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THE
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| 07:14:37 |
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CLINTON TO GO 100%
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| 07:14:39 |
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AUCTION. >>
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| 07:14:40 |
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CAN I ASK WHAT THE VOTE IS AT THIS MOMENT, MADAM CHAIR? >>
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| 07:14:43 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
IT'S GOING
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| 07:14:45 |
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STRONGLY NO. BUT I -- WE CAN
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| 07:14:47 |
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GIVE YOU
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| 07:14:48 |
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| 07:14:49 |
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THE
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| 07:14:52 |
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NUMBER.
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| 07:14:56 |
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12-3. 3-12, THREE, FAVOR, 12 AGAINST. >> NO. >> OKAY. AND I'M GOING
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| 07:15:01 |
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TO VOTE, SENATOR LAUTENBERG, AYE, AND I'M
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| 07:15:05 |
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GOING TO VOTE SENATOR CARDIN AYE AND SENATOR WHITEHOUSE? DO YOU HAVE AN INSTRUCTION? AYE. ALL RIGHT. IN AND I THINK THAT CONCLUDES MY PROXIES. DO YOU...
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| 07:15:19 |
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TODAY VOTE? >> NO. ONLY CRAIG. >> OKAY. COULD WE HAVE THE SPINAL TALLY THEN? >> THE YEAS ARE SIX, THE NAYS ARE 13. >> OKAY. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED
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| 07:15:39 |
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TO. NOW, SENATOR INHOFE, WHAT DO YOU HAVE LEFT
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| 07:15:42 |
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HERE? >> WELL, WE HAVE, I THINK SENATOR VOINOVICH WOULD BE NEXT. DOES ANYONE OBJECT TO THAT? WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE OUT OF ORDER HERE. >> YOU HAVE
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| 07:15:52 |
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FIVE OR SIX LEFT, IS THAT
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| 07:15:54 |
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RIGHT? >> LET ME GO AHEAD AND TAKE ONE, AND THEN WE'LL GO BACK. I ASK THAT INHOFE AMENDMENT NUMBER
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| 07:16:04 |
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17, BE DISTRIBUTED. AND WHILE THEY'RE DISTRIBUTING IT, MADAM CHAIRMAN, LET ME JUST SAY THAT THE FEDERAL
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| 07:16:13 |
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SECURITY LAWS REQUIRE PUBLICLY-OWNED CORPORATIONS TO DISCLOSE
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| 07:16:16 |
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TO THE SHAREHOLDERS BUSINESS FORESEEABLE BUSINESS RISKS THAT MAY IMPACT SHAREHOLDER VALUE. BECAUSE THIS LEGISLATION WILL LIKELY, IN FACT I WOULDN'T SAY...
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| 07:17:57 |
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REPORTS. I JUST DON'T THINK WE SHOULD GET INTO THAT BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE PLUSES, THERE'S GOING TO BE MINUSES, AND THEY ALREADY HAVE TO LOOK AT...
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| 07:18:58 |
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27. ISN'T THIS
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| 07:18:59 |
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THE ONE, SENATOR CARPER, THAT YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT? THIS INCLUDES NUCLEAR ENERGY AND A LIST OF TECHNOLOGY THAT IS THE NAS MUST REVIEW IN
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| 07:19:11 |
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ITS ANALYSIS OF TECHNOLOGIES TO REDUCE
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| 07:19:13 |
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OR LIMIT GREENHOUSE GAS
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| 07:19:15 |
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EMISSIONS. NOW, THE PROVISION OF WHAT THE BILL IS REQUIRING THE NAS TO DO, TO REVIEW SAYS YOU'VE GOT TO REVIEW SPECIFICALLY LISTS CARBON CAPTURE, STORAGE,...
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| 07:20:09 |
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LOW AND
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| 07:20:10 |
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ZERO CARBON TECHNOLOGY IS USED THROUGHOUT THE PRINT BEFORE US IN AN EFFORT TO TRY TO BE, I GUESS YOU'D SAY FUEL NEUTRAL. AND THERE'S AN EXCEPTION IN...
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| 07:21:35 |
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THE INHOFE AMENDMENT NUMBER 25 BE VOTED ON. >>
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| 07:21:38 |
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NUMBER 25. >> I HAVE
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| 07:21:40 |
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A COUPLE
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| 07:21:43 |
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OF AMENDMENTS, THIS IS ONE OF THEM. THIS IS RECOMMENDING A 10% TAX CREDIT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF NEW NUCLEAR PLANTS. ACCORDING TO THE 2005 REPORT...
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| 07:21:55 |
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THE PROGRESSIVE POLICY INSTITUTE, WHAT I DON'T QUOTE VERY
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| 07:21:59 |
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OFTEN, THEY SAY LAWMAKERS SHOULD ACKNOWLEDGE NUCLEAR POWER'S POTENTIAL NOT
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| 07:22:03 |
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ONLY TO REDUCE UNDUE RELIANCE ON NATURAL GAS BUT ALSO HELP COMBAT CLIMATE CHANGE AND CLEAN UP THE AIR. ONE WAY TO ACKNOWLEDGE NUCLEAR POWER'S POTENTIAL...
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| 07:22:49 |
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GOING TO GIVE TO SOLAR? SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO VOTE NO ON OUR SIDE, AND I'M HAPPY TO HAVE MORE CONVERSATION ABOUT IT IF YOU WANT. ANY OTHER -- >> YEAH....
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| 07:23:22 |
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WE DID
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| 07:23:23 |
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IN THE SENATE IS, YES, IT IS A PRODUCT THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED BY
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| 07:23:27 |
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THE PROPER COMMITTEE, AND I THINK THAT THIS IS GIVING SOME DIRECTION TO THAT COMMITTEE, AND I THINK IT'S VERY APPROPRIATE TO INCLUDE NUCLEAR ALONG...
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| 07:24:00 |
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THAT I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE SUPPORT NUCLEAR IS BY CONSIDERING THE OUTPUT BASE
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| 07:24:07 |
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TO ALLOCATION OF
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| 07:24:09 |
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CREDITS. WHEN WE, WHEN WE REVISIT ON THE FLOOR THAT
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| 07:24:13 |
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PARTICULAR ISSUE, OUTPUT VERSUS INPUT. AN OUTPUT BASE REALLY PROVIDES A WHOLE LOT OF SUPPORT FOR NONPOLLUTING SOURCES, AND THAT CERTAINLY INCLUDES...
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| 07:24:48 |
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THIS WOULD PROVIDE
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| 07:24:50 |
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ADDITIONAL INCENTIVE TO THOSE THAT ARE NOT PART OF THOSE FIRST SIX THAT ARE GOING TO BE BUILT IN THIS COUNTRY. I REALLY BELIEVE THAT NUCLEAR POWER IS...
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| 07:25:39 |
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THESE. I HAVE SENATOR ALEXANDER WITH TWO, SENATOR VOINOVICH WITH FIVE. >>
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| 07:25:47 |
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YEP. >>
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| 07:25:48 |
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SENATOR BARRASSO WITH THREE? AND SENATOR INHOFE WITH THREE. >> I THINK I HAVE FIVE. >> YOU HAVE FIVE LEFT? >> UH-HUH. >> MADAM CHAIR? >> THEY GREW. YES?...
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| 07:26:07 |
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VOICE VOTE ON 'EM SO I COULD EXPEDITE THOSE VERY QUICKLY. >>
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| 07:26:11 |
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OKAY. BECAUSE I THOUGHT YOU WEREN'T GOING TO DO --
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| 07:26:14 |
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OKAY, FIVE
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| 07:26:15 |
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ON BLOC. NOW,
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| 07:26:16 |
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THE GOAL WOULD
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| 07:26:17 |
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BE TO --
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| 07:26:19 |
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SORRY? OKAY. IT IS NOW
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| 07:26:21 |
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5:00. WE'VE BEEN SITTING HERE SINCE 9 WITH ABOUT A 20-MINUTE BREAK. AT SOME POINT WHEN IT'S THE WILL OF THE BODY WE WILL
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| 07:26:31 |
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START VOTING ON THESE ON BLOC, BUT AT THIS POINT WE'LL JUST KEEP WORKING THROUGH THEM. SENATOR INHOFE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A FINAL STATEMENT? >>...
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| 07:27:00 |
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IF IT'S JUSTIFIABLE FOR OTHER INDUSTRIES, OTHER SOURCES, IT SHOULD BE FOR THIS. AND I'D ENCOURAGE YOU TO SUPPORT IT. >> ALL RIGHT. WE'LL CALL THE ROLL...
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| 07:27:26 |
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PASSES. >> MR. BARRASSO? >> IS HE GONE THEN? >> DO YOU HAVE A PROXY? >> I DIDN'T REALIZE WHAT THE AMENDMENT WAS. MAY I VOTE
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| 07:27:41 |
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YES? >>
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| 07:27:42 |
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OF COURSE. SENATOR ALEXANDER VOTES YES. >>
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| 07:27:46 |
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BARRASSO IS ALSO YES
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| 07:27:50 |
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BY PROXY. >> MR. BAUCUS? >> NO, BY PROXY. >> MR. BOND? >> SENATOR
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| 07:27:56 |
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| 07:27:57 |
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BOND? >> OH. >> SENATOR BOND? >>
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| 07:27:59 |
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AYE, BY PROXY. >>
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| 07:28:03 |
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MR. CARDIN? MR. CARPER? MS. CLINTON? >> NO, BY
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| 07:28:10 |
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PROXY. >>
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| 07:28:11 |
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MR.
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| 07:28:12 |
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CRAIG? >> AYE. >> MR.
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| 07:28:15 |
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| 07:28:17 |
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INHOFE? >>
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| 07:28:18 |
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AYE. >> MR. IESES ACTSON? >>
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| 07:28:20 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
AYE. >> MS. KLOBUCHAR? >> NO. >>
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| 07:28:26 |
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MR. LAUTENBERG? >> NO, BY PROXY. >> MR. LIEBERMAN? >>
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| 07:28:30 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
NO. >> MR.
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| 07:28:33 |
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SANDERS? >> NO, BY PROXY. >> MR. VITTER? >>
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| 07:28:37 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
YES. >>
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| 07:28:38 |
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MR. VOINOVICH? >>
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| 07:28:39 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
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| 07:28:40 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
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| 07:28:41 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
AYE. >> MR. WARNER? >> NO, BY
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| 07:28:45 |
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PROXY. >> MR.
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| 07:28:46 |
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WHITEHOUSE? >> NO. >> MADAM
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| 07:28:48 |
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CHAIRMAN? >>
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| 07:28:49 |
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| 07:28:50 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
NO. >> MADAM CHAIRMAN,
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| 07:28:53 |
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THE
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| 07:28:54 |
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YEAS ARE EIGHT, THE
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| 07:28:55 |
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NAYS ARE 1. >> AMENDMENT
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| 07:28:57 |
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IS NOT AGREED TO. >>
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| 07:28:58 |
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YES, WELL, INSTEAD OF TAKING MINE, I'VE BEEN INFORMED
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| 07:29:02 |
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THAT
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| 07:29:03 |
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SENATOR VISITOR VITTER HAS
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| 07:29:05 |
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AN APPOINTMENT AND
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| 07:29:06 |
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WOULD LIKE TO
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| 07:29:07 |
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GO NEXT. >> IS
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| 07:29:08 |
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THIS YOUR LAST -- >> THEN AFTER THAT WOULD BE SENATOR
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| 07:29:11 |
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VOINOVICH. >> SENATOR VITTER'S LAST AMENDMENT. >> THANK YOU
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| 07:29:14 |
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VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIRMAN. AYE LIKE TO CALL UP
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| 07:29:17 |
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VITTER AMENDMENT NUMBER 2. MADAM CHAIRMAN, THIS AMENDMENT
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| 07:29:20 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
IS VERY SIMPLE. IT WOULD SIMPLY REQUIRE THE SUBMISSION OF AN ANNUAL REPORT ABOUT WHETHER MORE THAN
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| 07:29:28 |
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1,000 EMPLOYEES OF THE
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| 07:29:30 |
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U.S. CHEMICAL INDUSTRY WOULD BE
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| 07:29:32 |
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DISPLACED DURING THE FOLLOWING CALENDAR YEAR BECAUSE OF
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| 07:29:35 |
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THE ACT. AND, MADAM CHAIR, AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME WITH UNANIMOUS CONSENT, I'M WILLING TO CHANGE THAT NUMBER FROM 1,000 TO 10,000 TO MAKE THE THRESHOLD...
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| 07:32:13 |
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INCENTIVIZES COMPANIES TO ACTUALLY LAY PEOPLE OFF BECAUSE THEY'LL GET GREATER
|
| 07:32:17 |
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ALLOWANCES. SO
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| 07:32:18 |
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IN A PERVERSE WAY I DON'T THINK IT DOES MUCH TO HELP. YOU KNOW, I THINK WE NEED TO JUST LOOK AT THIS BILL AND LOOK AT REALITY. LET'S LOOK AT GREAT BRITAIN....
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| 07:34:45 |
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BY PROXY. >> MR.
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| 07:34:47 |
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CARDIN? >> NO. >> MR. CARPER? MS. CLINTON? >> NO, BY PROXY. >>
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| 07:34:57 |
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MR. CRAIG? >> AYE. >> MR.
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| 07:35:00 |
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| 07:35:01 |
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INHOFE? >>
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| 07:35:02 |
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AYE. >>
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| 07:35:03 |
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MR.
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| 07:35:04 |
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ISAACSON? >>
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| 07:35:06 |
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AYE. >>
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| 07:35:07 |
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MS.
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| 07:35:09 |
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KLOBUCHAR? MR. LAUTENBERG? >> NO, BY PROXY. >>
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| 07:35:14 |
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MR. LIEBERMAN? >>
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| 07:35:16 |
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MR. SANDERS? >>
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| 07:35:18 |
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NO, BY PROXY. >> MR.
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| 07:35:21 |
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VITTER? >>
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| 07:35:22 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
YES. >>
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| 07:35:25 |
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MR.
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| 07:35:26 |
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VOINOVICH? MR. WARNER? >> NO, BY PROXY. >>
|
| 07:35:31 |
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MR. WHITEHOUSE? >>
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| 07:35:33 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
NO. >> MADAM CHAIRMAN? >>
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| 07:35:35 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
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| 07:35:37 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
NO. >> MADAM CHAIRMAN, THE YEAS ARE
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| 07:35:40 |
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EIGHT, THE NAYS
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| 07:35:41 |
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ARE 11. >> OKAY. SENATOR
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| 07:35:43 |
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WHITEHOUSE, DID YOU WISH TO BE RECOGNIZED BEFORE WE GO DOWN THE REST? >>
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| 07:35:47 |
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THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I SIMPLY
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| 07:35:50 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
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| 07:35:51 |
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HAVE A KOHL QUESTION BETWEEN MYSELF
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| 07:35:53 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
AND
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| 07:35:54 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
SENATOR BAUCUS WITH, WHICH
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| 07:35:57 |
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SENATOR BAUCUS'S APPROVAL, I WOULD
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| 07:35:59 |
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ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT BE ENTERED INTO THE RECORD
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| 07:36:02 |
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OF THIS HEARING AT THE APPROPRIATE JUNCTURE. >> I VERY MUCH
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| 07:36:09 |
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THANK THE SENATOR, THE COLLOQUY'S A GOOD COLLOQUY. I DON'T HAVE IT BEFORE ME, BUT I KNOW IT'S WONDERFUL. [LAUGHTER] >> HERE IT IS. >> HERE IT IS. >>...
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| 07:36:31 |
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YOU, MADAM CHAIR. AND IT WAS AN EXCELLENT COLLOQUY. SENATOR INHOFE? BACK TO YOU. >> SENATOR
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| 07:36:39 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
VOINOVICH. >>
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| 07:36:40 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
OH,
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| 07:36:41 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
HOWELL
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| 07:36:42 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WENT. >> I BRING UP VOINOVICH AMENDMENT NUMBER
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| 07:36:46 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
5. THIS AMENDMENT MAKES CLEAR THAT ONCE
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| 07:36:51 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
CONGRESS ACTS THE STATES AND LOCALITIES ARE PREEMPTED FROM REGULATING GLOBAL GREENHOUSE GASES. IT CAN PERHAPS
|
| 07:36:59 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
BE SAID THAT IT HAS
|
| 07:37:02 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
REINFORCED THE NEED FOR FEDERAL ACTION
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| 07:37:04 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
AND HAS PLACED CLIMATE CHANGE HIGHER ON THE AGENDA. KEEPING STATE STANDARDS IN COMPETITION WITH FEDERAL STANDARDS WILL UNDERMINE THE SUCCESS OF THE...
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| 07:38:13 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
PATCHWORK OF DIFFERENT STANDARDS ALL
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| 07:38:15 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
OVER THE UNITED STATES WHICH
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| 07:38:16 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COMPLY WITH. AND I THINK THAT
|
| 07:38:20 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THAT WILL BE AN IMPEDIMENT IN REGARD TO THEIR MOVING FORWARD WITH WHAT WE WANT THEM TO DO. SO I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO ADOPT THIS NEW REGIME, THAT...
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| 07:39:27 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
ATTORNEY GENERAL OF MY STATE. THE POINT IS THIS, STATES HAVE BEEN THE LEADERS, AND FOR US TO COME IN AND NOW DICTATE WHAT THEY SHOULD DO, I THINK, WOULD...
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| 07:41:02 |
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AND THEN
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| 07:41:03 |
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TO SAY, IF IT
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| 07:41:05 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
PASSES, THAT ON TOP OF THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT ON IT VARIOUS STATES DOING THEIR OWN THINGS, I JUST THINK YOU'RE GOING TO END UP WITH SOMETHING THAT...
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| 07:41:54 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO QUICKLY ENACT STRONG NATIONAL LEGISLATION TO REQUIRE SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION OF GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSION. THEY HAVE A LANDMARK...
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| 07:43:00 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
FOR
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| 07:43:01 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
MANDATED CUTS IN GREENHOUSE
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| 07:43:03 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
GAS
|
| 07:43:05 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
EMISSIONS AND A TIME FRAME TO DO IT, AND A CAP AND TRADE SYSTEM. AND SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN WE MAKE THESE BLANKET STATEMENTS...
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| 07:44:16 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
IN THIS REGULATION. A DIME WILL
|
| 07:44:18 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
GET YOU A DOLLAR THAT ALMOST UNANIMOUSLY THEY'LL COME BACK AND SAY WE WANT ONE STANDARD FOR THE UNITED STATES
|
| 07:44:24 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
OF AMERICA, AND WE DON'T THINK THAT EACH STATE DOING THEIR OWN THING IS GOING TO MOVE THE BALL ALONG. >> I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT, SENATOR. >> THANK YOU....
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| 07:44:50 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
AREA. WE'RE TALKING
|
| 07:44:51 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
ABOUT TRYING TO DEAL
|
| 07:44:52 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WITH THE PROBLEMS OF GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGE. AND STATES HAVE GIVEN US SOME REAL LEADERSHIP IN THIS AREA. BUT I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THIS BILL, AS IMPORTANT...
|
| 07:45:01 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
IS, IS NOT
|
| 07:45:02 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THE END OF OUR EFFORTS AS IT RELATES TO OUR ENVIRONMENT, AND AS IT RELATES
|
| 07:45:07 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
TO OUR ENERGY POLICIES. AND STATES ARE GOING TO CONTINUE, I HOPE, TO BE AGGRESSIVE IN THIS AREA SO THAT THIS NATION CAN ACCOMPLISH ITS GOALS NOT ONLY...
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| 07:46:34 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
JUST BE VERY CLEAR AGAIN. I
|
| 07:46:36 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
DIDN'T EVER SAY THAT. WHAT I WAS RESPONDING TO IS THE FACT THAT THE WHOLE NOTION THAT WE WOULD DO CLIMATE CHANGE LEGISLATION THAT HAS MANDATORY CUTS...
|
| 07:46:53 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR. >> MOST PERVASIVE. >> SORRY, YOU'RE RIGHT. MOST. LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT I ERRED. I APOLOGIZE. WAS MAKING A POINT THAT IN...
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| 07:47:15 |
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MADAM CHAIR,
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| 07:47:17 |
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SENATOR VOINOVICH AND I HAVE WORKED SIDE BY SIDE FOR IN YEARS, AND I'M SURE HE RECALLS WHEN WE WERE GOVERNORS WE LIKED THE IDEA -- USUALLY LIKED THE...
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| 07:47:37 |
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OPPORTUNITY TO EXPERIMENT. AND OUR SUCCESS OR LACK OF WAS A WAY TO SORT OF INFORM FOLKS IN WASHINGTON TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS APPROPRIATE NATIONAL...
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| 07:49:13 |
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AYE. >> MR. ISAKSON. >>
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AYE. >>
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MS.
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KLOBUCHAR. >> NO BY PROXY. >>
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| 07:49:25 |
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MR. LAUTENBERG. >> NO BY PROXY. >> MR. LIEBERMAN. >>
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NO. >>
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| 07:49:29 |
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MR.
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SANDERS. >> NO
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| 07:49:31 |
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BY PROXY. >>
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| 07:49:32 |
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MR. VITTER. >>
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| 07:49:34 |
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AYE BY PROXY. >> MR. VOINOVICH. >>
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| 07:49:36 |
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AYE. >> MR. WARNER. >>
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NO. >>
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| 07:49:40 |
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MR. WHITEHOUSE. >> NO BY
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PROXY. >> MADAM CHAIRMAN. >>
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NO. >>
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MADAM CHAIRMAN, THE YEAS ARE
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| 07:49:50 |
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8, NAYERIZE 11. >>
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| 07:49:51 |
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THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED.
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| 07:49:53 |
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TO
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| 07:49:59 |
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SENATOR ALEXANDER, WE FINALLY
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| 07:50:01 |
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GET TO YOU. AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO RUSH
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| 07:50:03 |
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OFF. WE'RE HAPPY. >>
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| 07:50:04 |
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WELL THIS ISN'T YOUR FAULT. I AM INVOLVED IN A LITTLE FAMILY DISCUSSION
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| 07:50:07 |
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TODAY SO I HAVE BEEN STEPPING AND IN OUT FOR
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| 07:50:09 |
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THOSE DISCUSSIONS, AND TO MAKE UP
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| 07:50:11 |
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FOR MY ABSENCES, I'LL BE GLAD TO STAY AS LONG AS YOU NEED ME TO STAY TONIGHT IN CASE YOU NEED A QUORUM OR REPUBLICAN MEMBERS -- >> IT'S VERY, VERY KIND...
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| 07:50:24 |
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ALEXANDER AMENDMENT NUMBER 1. >> ALEXANDER AMENDMENT NUMBER 1. GO AHEAD SIR. >> IT PROVIDES ALLOWANCESS TODAY CEMENT INDUSTRY BASED ON AN EFISHANCY STANDARD....
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| 07:50:39 |
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COMMITTEE COULD ACCEPT IT SO THAT'S THE SPIRIT IN WHICH
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| 07:50:42 |
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I'LL OFFER IT, LET ME TRY TO PUT IT IN
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| 07:50:47 |
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PERSPECTIVE. I HAVE SAID BEFORE THAT I THINK THE WIDESER
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| 07:50:50 |
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APPROACH FOR CONGRESS ON CLIMATE CHANGE WOULD BE A SECTOR BY SECTOR APPROACH BECAUSE IT WOULD BE SIMPLER, FEWER SURPRISES, LESS COSTLY. AND THAT...
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| 07:53:18 |
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FLOOR THAT HOW
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| 07:53:20 |
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IMPORTANT THIS INFRASTRUCTURE WAS AND THAT WE WERE REALLY BEHIND, EVEN AFTER EVERYTHING'S DONE THAT WE HAVE REAUTHORIZED, WE WERE STILL JUST NOT EVEN...
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| 07:54:11 |
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AND DOES, DOESN'T DO IT WITHIN THE CAP. WE WANT TO PRESERVE THE CAP. SO IF, IF SENATOR ALEXANDER'S WILLING TO, TO MAKE THAT CHANGE, OR WORK WITH US,...
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| 07:54:44 |
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AND SEE IF OUR STAFFS CAN WORK TOGETHER NOW TO -- >> YES, I THINK THAT WOULD BE -- >> OKAY. >> YES? >> [INAUDIBLE] WHAT WOULD THE EFFECT OF THE
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| 07:54:54 |
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AMENDMENT -- [INAUDIBLE] >>
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| 07:54:56 |
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| 07:55:01 |
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DAVID, DO YOU WANT TO ANSWER THE
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| 07:55:07 |
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QUESTION? DAVID McINTOSH. >> THE
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| 07:55:09 |
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CEMENT INDUSTRY
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| 07:55:10 |
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WOULD GET ITS ALLOWANCED BASED PRIMARILY ON PERFORMANCE EFFICIENCY. SO THE, THE, THE ALLOWANCES THAT GO TO THEM WOULD BE BASED UPON HOW EFFICIENT THEY...
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| 07:55:25 |
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ALLOCATIONS. FEWER ALLOWANCES. >> DAVID, IS THAT, WOULD YOU AGREE WITH
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| 07:55:30 |
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THAT? >> THAT IS CORRECT. [INAUDIBLE] >> DAVID, MICROPHONE, PLEASE. >> IT IS CORRECT THAT THE NUMBER OF ALLOWANCES THAT CEMENT MANUFACTURERS WOULD BE...
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| 07:55:47 |
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AGGREGATE NUMBER OF ALLOWANCES THAT THEY COULD BE RECEIVING
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| 07:55:50 |
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ON THE PERFORMANCE BASIS IS NOT IN ANY WAY LIMITED. HOWEVER, THE POOL WITHIN WHICH, FROM WHICH THEY ARE GETTING THEIR
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| 07:55:56 |
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ALLOWANCES HERE IS ITSELF
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| 07:55:58 |
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LIMITED AND IN FACT IS DECLINING. SO UNDER THIS, THE WAY THIS IS WRITTEN, CEMENT WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE GETTING A LARGER AND LARGER PERCENTAGE OF A DECLINING...
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| 07:56:37 |
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THAT WE ACCEPT THE CHAIRMAN'S SUGGESTION OF WORKING WITH THE
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| 07:56:40 |
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STAFF TO MAKE CLEAR
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| 07:56:41 |
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WHAT OUR INTENT IS AND SEE IF, AND SEE IF THIS CAN BE, CAN BE ACCEPTED. >> IF THE SENATOR WOULD YIELD. THEN IF I UNDERSTAND TIT WOULD ONLY AFFECT
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| 07:56:50 |
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THE ALLOCATIONS WITHIN THE CEMENT INDUSTRY. IT WOULD NOT AFFECT ANY OTHER -- >> NO -- >> AS AMENDED, AS YOUR, YOUR -- >> DAVID, WHAT IS YOUR UNDERSTANDING,...
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| 07:57:07 |
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ALLOCATIONS OUTSIDE OF THE CEMENT INDUSTRY? >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT WOULD NOT, FOR INSTANCE, ALLOW, THE NUMBER OF
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| 07:57:14 |
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ALLOWANCES TO BE BUSTING THE CAP, FOR INSTANCE. IT WOULD NOT BE ALLOWING
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| 07:57:17 |
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THE, THE NUMBER OF AALLOWANCES IN
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| 07:57:19 |
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THE SYSTEM TO BE INCREASING BECAUSE WHERE THIS IS BEING INSERTICIDE WITHIN THE, THE TRANSITIONAL ALLOWANCE ALLOCATION
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| 07:57:27 |
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SYSTEM, WHICH IS ITSELF
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| 07:57:29 |
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OO LIMITED POT. IT WOULD, HOWEVER, JUST THE WAY IT IS DRAFTED, AND I THINK SENATOR ALEXANDER SAID THAT'S NOT THE INTENT. HOWEVER, AS IT IS DRAFTED...
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| 07:58:06 |
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| 07:58:08 |
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THIS, RIGHT. >> MADAM CHAIR, CD I
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| 07:58:12 |
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ASK THE AUTHER FOR THE POINT OF CLARIFICATION. THE HANDOUT WE HAVE RECEIVED HAS A ONE-SENTENCE
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| 07:58:18 |
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STATEMENT. THE ALLOWANCE WOULD ALLOW. EFFICIENCY STANDARD OR BENCHMARK, AND DO I UNDERSTAND THIS IS THE ALLOWANCES WOULD BE AWARDED BASED ON OUTPUT?...
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| 07:58:32 |
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APPROACH? >> I THINK THAT -- >> NO, IT'S WHETHER. >> THERE FOR A MOMENT I THINK YOU HAD ME. >> NO, I UNDERSTAND THE SPIRIT OF THE QUESTION, BUT IT'S...
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| 07:58:55 |
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SENATOR, SENATOR, IS IT TRUE YOU ARE WITHDRAWING
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| 07:58:58 |
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YOUR AMENDMENT AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR STAFFS
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| 07:59:00 |
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| 07:59:03 |
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WORK TOGETHER AND SEE IF WE CAN REACH AGREEMENT IN THE NEXT HOUR. >> AND LET ME JUST SAY IF WE CAN'T WE WILL CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION WITH YOU. >> SENATOR...
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| 07:59:12 |
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IS IT OKAY
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| 07:59:13 |
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IF SENATOR ALEXANDER HAS ANOTHER
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| 07:59:16 |
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AMENDMENT THAT I THINK HAS BROAD SUPPORT S. THAT ALL RIGHT WITH YOU SENATOR ALEXANDER, DO YOU HAVE YOUR LOW CARBON
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| 07:59:29 |
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FUEL? >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN. I WOULD
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| 07:59:32 |
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LIKE TO CALL UP AMENDMENT NUMBER 3. >> AMENDMENT NUMBER 3. >> ALEXANDER AMENDMENT NUMBER 3. >> IN, AGAIN, THIS IS AN AMENDMENT THAT I HOPE MIGHT BE...
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| 07:59:51 |
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THAT WOULD
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| 07:59:56 |
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CREATE THAT WOULD
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| 07:59:57 |
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INVOLVE THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION
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| 07:59:59 |
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AGENCY -- >> COULD YOU SPEAK UP A LITTLE, SENATOR. >> YES, IT'S AN AMENDMENT OF AN EXISTING, THE PURPOSE OF THE AMENDMENT WOULD AMEND THE CLEAN AIR ACT...
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| 08:00:20 |
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EPA TO CONDUCT RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT
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| 08:00:22 |
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ON THE ABILITY OF BIOFUELS TO REDUCE AIR POLLUTION EMISSIONS FROM TRANSPORTATION FUELS. IN OTHER WORDS, THERE IS AN EXISTSING PROGRAM WHICH ALLOWS...
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| 08:01:23 |
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SAY AYE. ALL OPPOSED
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| 08:01:24 |
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SAY NO. IF THERE IS NO NEED FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE, THEN THE AAMENDMENT IS AGREED TO. CONGRATULATIONS, SENATOR. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU...
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| 08:01:39 |
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INHOFE AMENDMENT 26. ASK FOR ITS CONSIDERATION. >> INHOFE AMENDMENT -- >> AFTER THAT, MADAM CHAIRMAN, I HAVE A COUPLE OTHERS. IT DOESN'T MATTER TO...
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| 08:01:51 |
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AMENDMENTS. >> I HAVE ZUTED THAT --. >>
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| 08:01:54 |
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| 08:02:02 |
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| 08:02:04 |
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I'LL TAKE THEM UP NOW THEN. ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO AGREE ON IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GET AGGRESSIVE
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| 08:02:13 |
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ON PURSUING NUCLEAR ENERGY. WE KNOW IT IS IMPORTANT NOT TO. -- HAS IN REVIEWING THESE NEW APPLICATIONS. BUT WE ALSO KNOW, AND I RECALL WHEN I BECAME...
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| 08:02:25 |
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SUBCOMMITTEE ABOUT, OH, SIX OR SEVEN YEARS AGO, THAT THE NRC HAD NOT HAD ANY OVERSIGHT HEARINGS IN 12 YEARS AND THINGS GOT SLOPPY, AND THEY AGREED...
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| 08:03:32 |
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THESE NUCLEAR AMENDMENTS WE ARE GOING TO BE REVISITING THESE ON THE FLOOR. I WOULD URGE A NO VOTE ON THIS. >> OKAY. THEN YOU WOULD BE OPPOSING THE BILL,...
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| 08:03:57 |
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RAISES IMPORTANT QUESTION. THAT'S ROLE OF, OF THE
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| 08:04:01 |
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NUCLEAR INDUSTRY
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| 08:04:02 |
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IN ADDRESSING POWER NEEDS,
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| 08:04:06 |
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ENERGY INDEPENDENCE AS OPPOSED TO CLIMATE CHANGE AND I
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| 08:04:08 |
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CAN THAT'S A
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| 08:04:09 |
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VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION THAT WE
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| 08:04:12 |
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SHOULD ADDRESS MORE
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| 08:04:14 |
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SERIOUSLY COMPREHENSIVELY THAN WE TEND
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| 08:04:16 |
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TO HAVE IN THE PAST. THE BILL BEFORE US DOES PROVIDE THE, I THINK, 52% OF THE, THE ALLOWANCES GO TO RESEARCH, ENERGY RESEARCH AS AUCTIONED OFF. 50%...
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| 08:05:29 |
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WILL. AS I SAY, I REPEAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACHIEVE A DELICATE BALANCE GET THIS BILL FORWARD IN ITS CURRENT FORM AND I HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DEFER...
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| 08:06:29 |
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HAD FOR WIND, IT'S FOR THE, SOLAR, FOR GEOTHERMAL, SO IF WE DON'T DO THIS, WE'RE GOING TO SEGREGATING NUCLEAR TO BE ININFERIOR TO THE OTHER THREE SOURCES...
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| 08:07:22 |
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SEEING A SECOND AROLL CALL VOTE IS SUBJECTED. >> MR. ALEXANDER. >> AYE. >> MR. BARRASSO? >> AYE BY PROXY. >>
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| 08:07:32 |
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MR. BAUCUS. >> NO. >>
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| 08:07:35 |
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MR. BOND. >> AYE BY PROXY. >>> MR.
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| 08:07:46 |
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| 08:07:47 |
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CARDIN, MR. CARPER. >> NO. >>
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| 08:07:50 |
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| 08:07:51 |
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MRS. CLINTON. >>
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| 08:07:52 |
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NO BY PROXY. >> MR. CRAIG. >>
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| 08:07:54 |
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| 08:07:55 |
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AYE. >> MR. INHOFE. >> AYE. >> MR. ISAKSON. >> AYE. >> MS. KLOBUCHAR. >>
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| 08:08:02 |
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NO BY PROXY. >> MR. LAUTENBERG. >> NO BY PROXY. >> MR. LIEBERMAN. >> NO. >>
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| 08:08:08 |
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MR.
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| 08:08:09 |
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SANDERS. >> NO BY
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| 08:08:11 |
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PROXY. >> MR.
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| 08:08:13 |
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VITTER. >> AYE BY
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| 08:08:15 |
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PROXY. >>
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| 08:08:16 |
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MR. VOINOVICH. >>
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| 08:08:18 |
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AYE. >> MR. WARNER. >>
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| 08:08:20 |
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NO. >>
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| 08:08:21 |
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MR. WHITEHOUSE. >>
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| 08:08:23 |
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| 08:08:24 |
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NO. >> MADAM CHAIRMAN. >>
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| 08:08:26 |
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| 08:08:27 |
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| 08:08:29 |
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| 08:08:31 |
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NO. >> MADAM CHAIRMAN, THE
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| 08:08:33 |
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YEAS ARE 8, THE NAYS ARE 11. >>
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| 08:08:35 |
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THE AMENDMENT'S NOT AGREED TO. SENATOR
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| 08:08:37 |
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INHOFE. >> MADAM
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| 08:08:38 |
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CHAIR. >>
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| 08:08:39 |
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OH. >> JUST EXCUSE
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| 08:08:40 |
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ME I WANT TO VERY BRIEFLY JUST BACK
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| 08:08:42 |
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UP WHAT YOU'VE SAID. I KNOW SENATOR WARNER
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| 08:08:44 |
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AND I AT
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| 08:08:45 |
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YOUR URGING LOOKED FORWARD IN THE TIME HOPING THIS BILL COMES OUT OF THE COMMITTEE FAVORABLY
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| 08:08:51 |
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BETWEEN THAT ACTION AND FLOOR ACTION
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| 08:08:53 |
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TO WORK PARTICULARLY WITH SENATOR
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| 08:08:55 |
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CARPER AND SENATOR ISAKSON BECAUSE THE,
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| 08:08:58 |
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WE ALL
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| 08:08:59 |
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AGREE THAT
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| 08:09:00 |
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THE BILL -- WE THINK THE BILL RIGHT NOW IS, HAS TREMENDOUS INCENTIVES IN THAT, IN THE CAP AND THE FUNDING AND THE LOW CARBON AND ZERO CARBON TECHNOLOGIES...
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| 08:09:49 |
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INHOFE-VOINOVICH
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| 08:09:51 |
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TWO. >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE VOTES ON BOTH OF THEM -- >>
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| 08:09:53 |
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EACH ONE, BUT THEY ARE BOTH RELATED TO EACH OTHER. >> SO IT'S VOINOVICH IMHOFF 2. >> THE AMENDMENT, THIS VOTE WILL HELP CARBON CAPTURE
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| 08:10:05 |
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AND SEQUESTERATION TECHNOLOGY. IN ORDER FOR ANY NEW CLIMATE RESHEM TO WORK
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| 08:10:10 |
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CARBON INTENSIVE INDUSTRIES MUST HAVE ACCESS
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| 08:10:12 |
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TO TECHNOLOGY THAT CAN CAPTURE AND STORE
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| 08:10:14 |
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CARBON DIOXIDE. THE SECOND ONE, BY THE WAY, IS VOINOVICH AMENDMENT
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| 08:10:19 |
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6. NO, I'M SORRY. IT'S
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| 08:10:22 |
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VOINOVICH AMENDMENT 3. VOINOVICH AMENDMENT 3 IS THE SECOND ONE. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE ON, WE'RE ON INHOFE VOINOVICH 2. >> OKAY. >> THE SECOND ONE WOULD...
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| 08:10:58 |
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| 08:11:00 |
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IS THAT IN ORDER FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH
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| 08:11:03 |
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CLEAN COAL CARBON CAPTURE SEQUESTERATION, WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS ENSURE TO OPERATORS THAT WE WILL MEET SAFETY STANDARDS
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| 08:11:14 |
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ESTABLISHED AND COOPERATING WITH STATE LEGISLATORS THAT THERE ARE SOME LIMITATION IN TERMS OF THEIR LIABILITY. AS A MATTER OF FACT, RIGHT NOW, THE DEPARTMENT...
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| 08:13:21 |
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COMPLICATED QUESTION OF LIABILITY
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| 08:13:25 |
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SAID OF OPERATORS OF COAL-POWERED FACILITIES
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| 08:13:28 |
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WITH REGARD TO THE NEW CARBON
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| 08:13:30 |
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CAPTURE AND SEQUESTERATION
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| 08:13:33 |
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PROGRAMS. BUT LIKE -- ANYTIME WE GET INTO LIABILITY QUESTIONS TGETS TO BE A HORNET'S NEST AROUND HERE. AND I FOR ONE AM NOT PREPARED TO, TO VOTE IN...
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| 08:15:06 |
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IMPORTANT UP FRONT THAT THESE FOLKS KNOW JUST WHAT THAT LIABILITY IS GOING TO BE. I THINK IF THEY DON'T, AND
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| 08:15:12 |
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IT'S UNCERTAIN,
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| 08:15:13 |
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MANY OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE RELUCTANT TO GO FORWARD, PARTICULARLY IN THE SEQUESTERATION THING BECAUSE THERE'S STILL A LOT OF QUESTION ABOUT HOW IT...
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| 08:15:54 |
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CASE, I'M HAPPY TO SIT DOWN WITH MY FRIEND AND, AND GO OVER THIS AND WHO KNOWS WHAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH. >> MADAM CHAIR? MADAM CHAIR? >> YES....
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| 08:16:23 |
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CARBON
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| 08:16:24 |
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SEQUESTERATION. ONE OF THE CONCERNS WE ASKED HIM TO ADDRESS IN DOING THAT WAS THE ISSUE
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| 08:16:28 |
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OF LIABILITY. WHAT I, WHAT I THINK MIGHT BE HELPFUL, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ON TO SOMETHING, AND I THINK I WAS THE ONE WHO SUBMITTED THE LETTER, WHAT I WOULD...
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| 08:17:41 |
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NEW SOURCE REVIEW
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| 08:17:42 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
REFORM. THIS LEGISLATION WILL REQUIRE COMPANIES
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| 08:17:46 |
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TO MAKE SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENTS TO IMPROVE THE EFFICIENCY OF THEIR FACILITIES OR TAKE OTHER ACTIONS TO REDUCE
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| 08:17:52 |
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EMISSIONS. UNDER
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| 08:17:53 |
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CURRENT INTERPRETATIONESS
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| 08:17:54 |
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OF THE CLEAN AIR ACT, A COMPANY MAY BE
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| 08:17:57 |
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PROHIBITED FROM MAKING SUCH INVESTMENTS UNTIL AFTER IT'S GONE THROUGH A LONG AND CUMBERSOME PERMITTING PROCESS. THIS REPRODUCTED PRODUCTS ENERGY EFFICIENCY...
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| 08:20:19 |
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OFFSHORE OIL OR GAS DRILLING. I DIDN'T WANT TO GET INTO ISSUE OF YUCCA MOUNTAIN. I DIDN'T WANT TO GET INTO -- I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE...
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| 08:21:21 |
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PROGRESS
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| 08:21:22 |
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AND WASTES RESOURCES. NOT ONLY DOES THE NEW SOURCE REVIEW DETER INVESTMENT IN NEWER,
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| 08:21:28 |
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CLEANER TECHNOLOGIES TALSO DISCOURAGES COMPANIES FROM EPIKEEPING POWER PLANTS MAN MAINTAINED AND A PROFESSOR AT CASE WESTERN LAW SCHOOL IN CLEVELAND...
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| 08:22:46 |
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VERY STRONGLY ABOUT
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| 08:22:47 |
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THIS, BUT GIVEN THE TIME, I THINK
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| 08:22:49 |
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I'D LOVE TO, TO HAVE A VOTE IF THERE'S NO FURTHER NEED TO DEBATE. >> YEP, I'D, I WOULD OBSERVE THOUGH THAT WE HAD SOME CASES WHERE THE NRS WAS TRIGGERED...
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| 08:23:16 |
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POLLUTANTS. WE OUGHT TO REALLY LOOK AT IT AND SAY TO LOOK OUT THERE AT THE INDUSTRY AND SAY WE WANT YOU TO BECOME MORE EFFICIENT IN TERMS OF YOUR EMISSIONS,...
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| 08:23:29 |
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THAT'S, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE. >> YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
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| 08:23:32 |
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WE WANT TO GET IT DONE, BUT I THINK MOST OF US WANT TO GET IT DONE, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR EVERYONE, WITHOUT MAKING THE AIR MORE POLLUTED. WE HAVE GOT...
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| 08:23:51 |
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VEHICLE FOR AMENDING THE CLEAN AIR ACT EVEN IN SMALL WAYS, WHICH COULD LEAD TO DIRTY AIR. I MEAN THAT'S -- THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, A VIOLATION OF ...
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| 08:24:40 |
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WE REDUCE HOPEFULLY REDUCE SOME CO2 EMISSIONS WITH THE AMENDMENT OFFERED HERE, WE MAY UNINTENTIONALLY LEAD TO THE INCREASE OF EMISSIONS OF SULFUR DIOXIDE,...
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| 08:25:21 |
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AYE. >> MR. BAUCUS, MR. BOND. >> AYE BY PROXY. >>
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| 08:25:32 |
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MR. CARDIN. >>
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| 08:25:33 |
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NO BY PROXY. >>
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| 08:25:34 |
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| 08:25:35 |
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MR. CARPER. >>
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| 08:25:36 |
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| 08:25:38 |
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NO. >>
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| 08:25:39 |
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MRS. CLINTON. >> NO BY PROXY. >>
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| 08:25:42 |
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MR. CRAIG. >> AYE. >> MR. INHOFE. >>
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| 08:25:47 |
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| 08:25:48 |
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AYE. >> MR. ISAKSON. >>
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| 08:25:52 |
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AYE. >>
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| 08:25:53 |
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MS. KLOBUCHAR. >> NO BY
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| 08:25:55 |
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PROXY. >> MR. LAUTENBERG. >> NO
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| 08:25:58 |
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BY PROXY. >>
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| 08:25:59 |
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MR. LIEBERMAN. >>
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| 08:26:01 |
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NO. >>
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| 08:26:02 |
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MR. SANDERS. >> NO
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| 08:26:04 |
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BY
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| 08:26:05 |
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PROXY. >> MR. VITTER. >> AYE BY
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| 08:26:08 |
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PROXY. >> MR. VOINOVICH. >>
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| 08:26:10 |
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| 08:26:12 |
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AYE. >> MR.
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| 08:26:13 |
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WARNER. >> NO. >>
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| 08:26:16 |
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MR. WHITEHOUSE. >>
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| 08:26:17 |
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NO. >>
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| 08:26:18 |
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MADAM CHAIRMAN. >>
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| 08:26:19 |
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| 08:26:21 |
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| 08:26:23 |
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| 08:26:25 |
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| 08:26:26 |
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| 08:26:28 |
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NO. >> MADAM CHAIRMAN,
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| 08:26:29 |
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THE YEAS ARE 7, THE NAYS ARE
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| 08:26:32 |
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12. >> THE AMENDMENT
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| 08:26:33 |
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IS NOT AGREED TO. SENATOR INHOFE,
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| 08:26:35 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
COULD YOU GIVE US A LITTLE
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| 08:26:36 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
BIT OF A REVIEW
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| 08:26:37 |
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AS TO WHERE WE ARE, BECAUSE
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| 08:26:38 |
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I THINK SOME FOLKS MIGHT WANT TO KNOW HOW CLOSE WE ARE TO MAYBE GETTING TO THE END. >> YEAH, I CAN. MADAM CHAIRMAN, I AM GOING TO NOT INTRODUCE SOME...
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| 08:26:48 |
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INTRODUCE, BUT I
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| 08:26:49 |
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DO HAVE TWO MORE, ONE OF WHICH I WILL WITHDRAW, HOWEVER, IF ANY OF THE
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| 08:26:53 |
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MEMBERS OVER HERE HAVE AMENDMENTS THEY'D LIKE TO TAKE UP BECAUSE THEY MIGHT WANT TO LEAVE EARLY, THAT'S PERFECTLY ALL RIGHT. >> I DON'T HAVE TO LEAVE,...
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| 08:27:03 |
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AS I SAID, SENATOR INHOFE AND MADAM CHAIRMAN, I HAVE AN EN BLOC GROUP THAT I THINK WILL TAKE BUT A FEW MINUTES, AND I DO MEAN THAT TO DISPOSE OF AND I...
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| 08:27:19 |
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ALL RIGHT. >> AND MADAM CHAIRMAN, I HAVE ONE AMENDMENT. >> RIGHT. SO THERE'S
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| 08:27:22 |
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ONE AND THERE -- >> AND SENATOR BARRASSO
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| 08:27:24 |
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HAS THREE. >> IS THERE BENEFIT ONE AND THERE'S THREE. >> I HAVE TWO. >> MADAM CHAIRMAN, DO YOU STILL INTEND TO GO TO -- >> ABSOLUTELY AT THE END OF THIS...
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| 08:27:33 |
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SOON AS WE
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| 08:27:34 |
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FINISH. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE
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| 08:27:36 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THOSE TVA PEOPLE -- YOU DON'T
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| 08:27:38 |
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HAVE ANYMORE. [LAUGHTER]
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| 08:27:40 |
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SENATOR
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| 08:27:41 |
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VOINOVICH -- WE'RE JUST REMEMBER WE HAVE
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| 08:27:44 |
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THESE NOMMANIES
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| 08:27:45 |
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AFTER. AND THANK YOU FOR REMINDING
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| 08:27:47 |
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ME BECAUSE WE REALLY DO HAVE
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| 08:27:49 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
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| 08:27:52 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THOSE. WE NEED A QUORUM BUT WE HAVE A QUORUM NOW. 1, 2, 3, 4, WELL, TO DO THE, WELL, TO DO 6, NO NOT FOR NOMINEES. WE ARE GOING TO NOMINEES AFTER WE...
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| 08:28:23 |
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1. HE'S DONE. SO HE'S NOT DONE? 2 TO 3. OKAY. SO IF HE DOES 3, THAT'S 6, THAT'S 7, THAT'S 8 AMENDMENTS ARE LEFT, AND -- EN BLOC SENATOR CRAIG. IT...
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| 08:28:42 |
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THEN GO
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| 08:28:43 |
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TO TVA. OKAY. LET'S DO. SENATOR CRAIG. >> MADAM CHAIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'LL BE BRIEF BECAUSE LIKE YOU, MY VOICE IS LEAVING ME. >> YEAH. >> AND,...
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| 08:29:09 |
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A FACT IN EVIDENCE THAT WE'RE GOING BUT WE'LL SEE. >> AND IT DOES LOOK LIKE THAT COULD BE BUILDING. ANYWAY, AS I HAD
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| 08:29:15 |
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MENTIONED, I HAVE FIVE AMENDMENTS.
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| 08:29:17 |
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CRAIG AMENDMENT 35, CRAIG AMENDMENT 34, CRAIG AMENDMENT
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| 08:29:24 |
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29, CRAIG AMENDMENT 32, CRAIG AMENDMENT
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| 08:29:28 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
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| 08:29:29 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
33. OF THE LAST THREE, 29,
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| 08:29:32 |
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32, AND 33, THERE WERE SECOND DEGREES TO CORRECT LANGUAGE IN THEM AND NUMBERS, NOT THE INTENT AT ALL. >> I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY OBJECTION IF YOU ASK...
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| 08:30:04 |
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FROM COAL TO LIQUID PLANTS, RIGHT OF WAY, STREAMLINING AS IT
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| 08:30:09 |
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RELATES
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| 08:30:10 |
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TO SEQUESTERATION
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| 08:30:12 |
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PIPELINES. THE RISK
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| 08:30:13 |
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OF REDUNDANT PERMITTING, THAT TYPE OF THING
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| 08:30:16 |
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TADDRESSES THAT ISSUE. AMENDMENT 34, CLIMATE DATA REGISTRY, THE AMENDMENT WILL ESTABLISH AN INTERNATIONAL CLIMATE DATA REGISTRY. WITH SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS...
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| 08:31:48 |
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AYE. >> AYE. OPPOSED SAY NO. THE NOES HAVE IT. NOES HAVE IT. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. >> THANK
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| 08:31:55 |
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YOU VERY MUCH, SENATOR. SENATOR ALEXANDER. >> YES, MA'AM. >> PLEASE GO FORWARD. >>
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| 08:32:02 |
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THANK YOU, MADAM
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| 08:32:03 |
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CHAIR. I
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| 08:32:04 |
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CALL UP ALEXANDER
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| 08:32:06 |
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AMENDMENT NUMBER 4. >> ALL RIGHT. >> MADAM
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| 08:32:10 |
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CHAIRMAN, THIS IS AN AMENDMENT THAT WOULD CREATE
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| 08:32:14 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WHAT IS CALL
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| 08:32:15 |
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ADLOW CARBON FUEL STANDARD. A NUMBER OF MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE HAVE EXPRESS UNDER
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| 08:32:21 |
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INTEREST IN THIS, INCLUDING THE, I BELIEVE THE
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| 08:32:23 |
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CHAIRMAN EVEN HAS A, A BILL THAT INCLUDES A LOW CARBON FUEL STANDARD.
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| 08:32:29 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
VERY SIMPLY, A LOW
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| 08:32:32 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
CARBON FUEL STANDARD IS A WAY OF REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF CARBON IN FULTION, GASOLINE, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT I BELIEVE IS IS MOST LIKELY TO PASS ALONG ANY...
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| 08:36:09 |
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THINK AT THE END OF THE
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| 08:36:10 |
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DAY, WHEN WE HAVE THESE LOW CARBON
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| 08:36:13 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
FUELS, THAT THE BILL'S GOING TO BECOME MUCH EASIER TO COMPLY WITH. IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF STRESS AND STRAIN OUT OF HAVING TO COMPLY WITH IT. SO...
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| 08:36:47 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
STANDALONE IT'S GOOD. WHEN YOU PUT IT WITH A CAP ON THE UPSTREAM WITH NO ASSURANCES THAT THAT WILL COME OUT ON THE FLOOR, YOU CREATE A VERY COMPLICATED...
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| 08:36:59 |
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OTHER. IT CANNOT BE BOTH.
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| 08:37:01 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
RIGHT NOW AT THIS
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| 08:37:02 |
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BILL WILL LEAVE THE COMMITTEE, I'M ASSUMING WITH BOTH IN IT. I APPRECIATE WHAT THE SENATOR IS SUGGESTING ABOUT HIS EFFORT TO GET IT OUT ON THE FLOOR....
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| 08:37:37 |
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AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK
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| 08:37:39 |
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SENATOR ALEXANDER FOR IT. IT REALLY TIMPROVES THIS BILL GREATLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS. DO YOU WISH A RECORDER VOTE OR A VOICE VOTE, SIR? --...
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| 08:37:50 |
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URGE YOU DO A RECORDED VOTE TO. >> RECORDED VOTE IS SUGGESTED AND I WILL SECOND SENATOR ALEXANDER'S AMENDMENT AND THE CLERK WILL CALL THE VOTE. >> MR....
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| 08:38:11 |
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AYE. >> MR. CARPER. >>
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| 08:38:13 |
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AYE. >> MRS. CLINTEN. >> AYE BY PROXY. >> MR. CRAIG. >>
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| 08:38:19 |
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| 08:38:20 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
NO. >> MR. INHOFE. >>
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| 08:38:21 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
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| 08:38:22 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
NO. >>
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| 08:38:23 |
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MR. ISAKSON. >>
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| 08:38:25 |
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AYE. >>
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| 08:38:26 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
MS. KLOBUCHAR. >> AYE BY PROXY. >>
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| 08:38:28 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
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| 08:38:29 |
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MR. LAUTENBERG. >> AYE BY
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| 08:38:31 |
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PROXY. >>
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| 08:38:32 |
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MR. LIEBERMAN. >> AYE. >>
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| 08:38:34 |
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MR. SANDERS. >> AYE BY
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| 08:38:36 |
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PROXY. >>
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| 08:38:37 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
MR.
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| 08:38:38 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
VITTER. >>
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| 08:38:40 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
NO BY PROXY. >> MR.
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| 08:38:42 |
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VOINOVICH. >>
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| 08:38:43 |
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NO BY PROXY. >> MR. WARNER. >>
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| 08:38:45 |
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AYE. >>
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| 08:38:46 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
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| 08:38:47 |
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MR. WHITEHOUSE. >>
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| 08:38:49 |
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AYE. >> MADAM
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| 08:38:51 |
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CHAIRMAN? >>
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| 08:38:52 |
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| 08:38:53 |
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| 08:38:54 |
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| 08:38:56 |
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AYE. >> THE
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| 08:38:59 |
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| 08:39:00 |
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YEAERIZE 13, THE NAYS ARE
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| 08:39:02 |
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| 08:39:03 |
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| 08:39:04 |
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| 08:39:05 |
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6. >> THE AMENDMENT IS AGREED TO. SENATOR
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| 08:39:07 |
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INHOFE, WHAT IS YOUR WISH. >> MY WISH IS TO GO
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| 08:39:09 |
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AHEAD WITH THE LAST TWO AMENDMENTS
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| 08:39:11 |
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THAT I'LL HAVE, ONE OF WHICH I'LL
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| 08:39:17 |
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WITHDRAW.
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| 08:39:20 |
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THE, THIS AMENDMENT ADDRESSES THE INACCURACIES THAT ARE FOUND IN
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| 08:39:26 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THE EIAs IN THE NATIONAL ENERGY
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| 08:39:29 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
AND MODELING SYSTEMS. SINCE 2000, IT HAS BEEN DEMONSTRATED TO BE SERIOUSLY UNDERPREDICTING THE PRICE OF NATURAL GAS AND OVERPREDICTING THE SUPPLY...
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| 08:40:14 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
EMERGENCY, EMERGING RUSSIAN AND IRANIAN CAR TELL REQUIRES
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| 08:40:18 |
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THE ABILITY
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| 08:40:19 |
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TO PREDICT GLOBAL AND NATURAL GAS SUPPLY AND
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| 08:40:23 |
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PRICES
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| 08:40:24 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WITH CONFIDENCE. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I, WE'RE NOT GOING TO ADDRESS. LET ME WITHDRAW IT SO YOU DON'T NEED TO PASS ANYTHING OUT BUT I DO WANT...
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| 08:41:13 |
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AMENDMENT BRINGS THE EIGHT YEARS AT THE POINT THE UNITED STATES BEGINS TO ADD THE TRUE COST TO CHINESE IMPORTS OTOUR BORTERS -- BORDERS. THIS SHOULD...
|
| 08:42:28 |
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SOMETHING IMPORTANT. >> IT IS THE PARITY I AM INTERESTED IN MORE THAN THE -- >> ARE YOU WILLING TO WITHDRAW IT AND WE'LL WORK WITH YOU ON THE FLOOR....
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| 08:42:50 |
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CHAIR SENATOR ALEXANDER. >>
|
| 08:42:52 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
INTERRUPTING. YOU HAD ASKED OUR STAFFS TO THE WORK ON
|
| 08:42:55 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THE CEMENT AMENDMENT.
|
| 08:42:56 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO, TO COME TO RESOLUTION
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| 08:43:00 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
OF THAT WITHIN THE NEXT HOUR. BUT WE THINK
|
| 08:43:03 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WE CAN LATER. SO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IF
|
| 08:43:06 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
I, THE AMENDMENT IS WITHDRAWN. IF YOU WILL WORK WITH ME TO BRING, SEE THAT
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| 08:43:12 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THE AMENDMENT'S BROUGHT UP ON THE, ON THE FLOOR. >> WITHOUT QUESTION. >> WITHOUT QUESTION, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS, AS I UNDERSTAND, THE SPIRIT OF THE...
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| 08:43:35 |
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BARRASSO HAS THREE, SO IS THAT, CORRECT SENATOR VEIN RCH THREE FOR YOU AND THREE FOR SENATOR BARRASSO, IS THAT CORRECT, SENATOR? >> I THINK I AM FINISHED....
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| 08:43:49 |
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I. [LAUGHTER] >> IF I COULD JUST
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| 08:43:51 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
SAY AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT WHERE WE ARE DOWN TO THREE AMENDMENTS, I HOPE THE STAFF WILL ALERT YOUR BOSS, EXCEPT FOR SOME WHO CLEARLY TOO FAR AWAY TO...
|
| 08:44:04 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WE'RE VERY CLOSE TO A FINAL VOTE AND THEN WE
|
| 08:44:06 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WANT TO HAVE A QUORUM FOR THE
|
| 08:44:09 |
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TVA, I MEAN, BELIEVE ME, SENATOR
|
| 08:44:11 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
ISAKSON AND SENATOR ALEXANDER AND I KNOW AND OTHERS HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THAT MOMENT FOR A LONG TIME. SO IF, IF WE COULD GET COLLEAGUES BACK. SENATOR...
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| 08:44:51 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
DEMONSTRATION PROJECTS AT 4,000 FEET ABOVE SEA LEVEL. SOME OF YOU MAY REMEMBER MY PREDSESTHER LATE SENATOR THOMAS HAD SIMILAR LANGUAGE IN THE 2005...
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| 08:46:18 |
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SEEMS TO JUST GRAB 25% OF THE POT AND DIRECT IT IN ONE WAY. IT JUST SEEMS TO ME TO BE A LITTLE BIT TOO TARGETED AND NOT BROAD ENOUGH BUT I WOULD DEFER...
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| 08:46:57 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
VERY MUCH REMEMBER AND MANY IN THIS COMMITTEE DO, PREVIOUS
|
| 08:47:00 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
MEMBER OF THIS COMMITTEE YEARS AGO, SENATOR SIMPSON, WHO HAD CHARACTERIZE YOUR STATE VERY ACCURATELY, VERY COLORFULLY AS A STATE
|
| 08:47:08 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
OF HIGH ALTITUDE AND LOW MULTIFEUD. [LAUGHTER] --
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| 08:47:11 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
MULTITUDE -- [LAUGHTER] AND SOME OF OUR
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| 08:47:15 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
STATES HAVE LOW MULTITUDE BUT WE
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| 08:47:17 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
DON'T HAVE QUITE THE, QUITE THE SAME ALTITUDE AS, AS THE, AS THE STATE OF WYOMING. 4,000 FEET'S GETTING UP THERE A LITTLE BIT. THERE'S A LOT OF COAL...
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| 08:48:00 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
JUST LIKE COOKING AT HIGH ALTITUDE, SINCE WE A PIZZA FOR LUNCH, AND IT SAYS, YOU KNOW AT ALTITUDE COOK FOR THIS LENGTH OF TIME AT A DIFFERENT TEMPERATURE,...
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| 08:49:20 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
A PROBLEM WITH ANY OF US WANTING TO KNOW THE ANSWER, I THINK THE ISSUE IS, MAKING A 4,000 BUT, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S TARGETED TO, I DON'T KNOW, SOMEBODY...
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| 08:49:40 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WORK WITH YOU TO CREATE A DEMONSTRATION PROCESS FOR THIS KIND OF HIGH ALTITUDE TECHNOLOGY, RATHER THAN TAKE 25 PERCENT OF ALL THE MONEY. I THINK THAT...
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| 08:49:56 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THE IDEA. IT IS IMPORTANT TOO HAVE THAT SORT OF DEMONSTRATION. >> SENATOR ALEXANDER, I THINK THAT IS A CONSENSUS WE ARE ALL READY TO WORK WITH THE NEW...
|
| 08:50:21 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
CLARIFIES THAT BEEN CARBON MARKET EFFICIENCY BOARD AND COST RELIEF MEASURES IF SIGNIFICANTLY HARMED FOR ANY OF THE 50 STATES OR TERRITORIES SPECIFICALLY
|
| 08:50:36 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THE CURRENT BILL SAYS THAT HAS TO DO WITH ECONOMIC IMPACT ON THE UNITED STATES AND I WANTED TO GO IN DIVIDUAL STATES OR ANY STATE OR TERRITORY OF THE...
|
| 08:51:10 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
DIFFERENT IN DIFFERENT STATES, FOR EXAMPLE, I KNOW MY COLLEAGUES IN THE WEST AND MIDWEST ARE ESPECIALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPACT OF THE BILL, THE...
|
| 08:51:28 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THE ALLEGATIONS IN THIS BILL AS WELL AS THE TECHNOLOGY PROGRAMS ON THE BILL TO SAFEGUARD THE ROLE OF COAL IN THE ECONOMY. I THINK THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT,...
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| 08:52:49 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
CALL COST CONTAINMENT. THERE WILL BE AN OPEN DIALOGUE SO IF THIS DOES NOT SUCCEED, WE WILL WELCOME YOU TOO THAT DIALOGUE. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SENATOR...
|
| 08:53:25 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
MINIMUM NUMBER
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| 08:53:27 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
11. -- AMENDMENT NUMBER 11. >> THIS WILL BE OUR LAST
|
| 08:53:32 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
AMENDMENT? PINCH ME IF I AM DREAMING OVER
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| 08:53:36 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
|
| 08:53:38 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
HERE. >> BARRASSO AMENDMENT NUMBER 11. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN. THIS AMENDMENT WOULD ENSURE THAT THE DEPARTMENT
|
| 08:53:45 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
OF INTERIOR AND SECRETARY OF COMMERCE ARE NOT REQUIRED TO REOPEN ESTABLISHED IN DANGER SPECIES ACT RECOVERY PLAN
|
| 08:53:51 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
AS A RESULT OF THIS LEGISLATION. THIS AMENDMENT IS DESIGNED TO PROVIDE CLARITY TO PROPERTY OWNERS, TO RANCHERS AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS THAT WE
|
| 08:54:00 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
ARE NOT OPENING UP PANDORA'S BOX OF THE HABITATION PROVISIONS CONTAINED IN THIS LEGISLATION. IT IS MY HOPE THAT IF ADOPTED WE MIGHT AVOID POTENTIAL LAWSUITS...
|
| 08:54:43 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THOSE ISSUES IN DEBATE THOSE ISSUES. I JUST DON'T THINK AGAIN, THIS IS THE PLACE TO START CHANGING THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ESA OR CLEAN AIR ACT OR ANY...
|
| 08:56:05 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
GOING ONCE? I SEE THAT THERE ARE NO -- >> MADAM
|
| 08:56:16 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
CHAIRMAN. >> I HAVE
|
| 08:56:19 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THAT COMING. SENATOR CRAIG. >> I WAS JUST LAMENTING. I
|
| 08:56:24 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
HAD SO MANY MORE AMENDMENTS THAT I COULD OFFER AND WE ARE VANISHING SO EARLY IN THE DAY. >> IS NINE AND A HALF HOURS TO SHORT OF A PERIOD OF TIME FOR...
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| 08:56:37 |
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WITHHOLD. >> ALL RIGHT. >> I MOVE THAT
|
| 08:56:40 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THE SUBSTITUTE AMENDMENT AS AMENDED BE
|
| 08:56:43 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
APPROVED. IS THERE A SECOND? >> THERE IS A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENT SAY I, ALL THOSE
|
| 08:56:51 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
OPPOSED SAY NO. THE GUYS HAVE IT AND THE SUBSTITUTE AMENDMENT AS AMENDED
|
| 08:56:57 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
IS AGREED TO.
|
| 08:56:58 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
I
|
| 08:57:00 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
NOW MOVE THAT S
|
| 08:57:06 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
2191, THE LIEBERMAN WARNER CLIMATE SECURITY ACT OF 2007 BE REPORTED FAVORABLY TO THE UNITED STATES SENATE. IS THERE A SECOND? THE CLERK WILL CALL...
|
| 08:57:44 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
PROXY. >> MR. INHOFE,
|
| 08:57:45 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
NO. >> MR. ISAACSON, NO. >> MISCLUB CHART, I. MS. DEARTH OF LUXEMBOURG. I BY
|
| 08:57:56 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
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| 08:58:00 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
PROXY. >> MR. SANDERS, I BY PROXY. MR.
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| 08:58:06 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
VEDDER, MR.
|
| 08:58:09 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
VOINOVICH. >> MR.
|
| 08:58:13 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WHITE HOUSE. >> MADAM CHAIRMAN, ONE. THE CLERK WILL REPORT
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| 08:58:23 |
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PLEASE. THESE ARE 11, THE NAYS ARE EIGHT. ONE ON THIS VOTE, THE AYES ARE 11, THE
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NAYS ARE EIGHT. THE BILL AS AMENDED IS REPORTED FAVORABLY TO THE SENATE.
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| 08:58:40 |
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MADAM CHAIRMAN,. >> YES, SIR. >> FIRST OF ALL, LET ME CONGRATULATE YOU AND SECONDLY, LET ME TELL YOU I THAT A WONDERFUL TIME BUT THIS WASN'T IT. [LAUGHTER]...
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| 08:59:02 |
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THE MEMBERS, ET THANK YOU FOR YOUR
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| 08:59:05 |
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ON THIS, FOR THE FAIRWAY IN WHICH YOU CONDUCTED THESE PROCEEDINGS AND BELIEVE FOR THE SPIRIT OF GOODWILL THAT EXISTED NOTWITHSTANDING THIS AGREEMENTS...
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| 08:59:19 |
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COMMITTEE. SOVIETS AND DISAGREEMENTS, BUT WE DIDN'T DISAGREE IN A DIVISIVE WAY AND WE NOW MOVE TO THE SENATE FLOOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> I JOIN IN...
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| 08:59:51 |
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ON THIS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE. >> SENATOR BAUCUS? >> I COMPLEMENT YOU AND ALL OF US HERE, QUITE FRANKLY, ESPECIALLY SENATOR LIEBERMAN AND WARNER,...
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| 09:00:20 |
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BALANCED APPROACH AND I COMPLEMENT
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| 09:00:21 |
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THEM VERY, VERY MUCH. ESPECIALLY SENATOR WARNER. WARNER, AS OFTEN SHOWN REAL STATESMANSHIP. THEY ARE POLITICIANS BUT THEY ARE ALSO STATEMENT. SENATOR...
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| 09:01:23 |
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FOUND IT BANK AND CLEARLY CLIMATE CHANGE IS ONE OF THOSE ISSUES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> ONE TO THANK THE DISTINGUISHED SENATOR FROM MONTANA FOR HIS...
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| 09:01:50 |
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AND I WANT TO MENTION MY HUSBAND AND MY DAUGHTER ABIGAIL WHO IS 12 YEARS OLD AND SEEN WEARING A LOT
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| 09:01:55 |
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OF PAIN WHEN BUTTONS A GROUND SCHOOL. SHE IS HERE AND JUST TO BE HERE INSTEAD OF AT THE OFFICIAL BREADING OF THE -- LIGHTING OF THE CHRISTMAS TREE...
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| 09:02:31 |
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OF THIS MARKUP, THAT THE YOUNG PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY ARE REALLY COUNTING ON US TO LEAVE AND TWO TRY TO BUILD
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| 09:02:39 |
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SOME KIND OF CONSENSUS. THAT AROUND A PLAN OF ACTION THAT WHILE THERE IS STILL TIME TO DO THAT AND I MUST SAY, I'VE BEEN HERE FOR SEVEN YEARS AND I...
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| 09:03:53 |
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BE. BOLT FOR THE CONSEQUENCE OF THE ENVIRONMENT BUT ALSO FOR THE INTEGRITY OF OUR ENVIRONMENT AND THEIR IN THE WORLD. I MENTIONED AT THE OUTSET THAT...
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| 09:07:03 |
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LAST NIGHT WERE UP FOR 24 HOURS GETTING READY FOR THIS? THIS TYPE OF YOUR IS TOUGH AND I THINK EVERYONE WAS WELL PREPARED ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE...
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| 09:08:07 |
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OTHER IN SUCH A RESPECT FOR THE ISSUE AND SUCH RESPECT FOR ALL OF US ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE AND I HAVE TO SAY, IT WAS THAT TONE AND TENOR THAT I THINK...
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| 09:12:10 |
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I WANT TO TALK ABOUT -- EXTREMELY WELL QUALIFIED. MISCOMMUNICATION OR LACK OF COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THIS BOARD AND SOME OF THE LOCAL FIRST RESPONDERS,...
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| 09:12:33 |
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FIRST RESPONDERS TO BRIDGE THAT GAP. I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT HIS NOMINATION. >> NOW, I WANT TO SAY THAT THE RECORD WILL REMAIN OPEN FOR SEVEN DAYS OR...
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| 09:12:59 |
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CHAIR, THEY HAVEN'T AND DENOMINATIONS ARE REPORTED TO THE SENATE AND THAT CONCLUDES TODAY'S BUSINESS MEETING AND THE COMMITTEE STANDS ADJOURNED WITH...
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NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.