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00:00:005 min.
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada

Good morning. The Readiness and Management

Support Subcommittee meets today to receive testimony on the Department

of Defense’s (DOD) business...

00:05:364 min.
Akaka, Daniel K. - U.S. Senator, [D] Hawaii

Yes, Mr. Chairman, thank you very much.

STATEMENT OF SENATOR DANIEL K. AKAKA

Mr. Chairman, I also want to say it has been a

real pleasure...

00:09:528 sec.
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada

Thank you. We’ll start with Mr. Walker. Once

again, I want to applaud you for work that you do for our Nation.

I appreciate your being here...

00:10:004 min.
Walker, David M. - Comptroller General

Thank you Chairman Ensign and Senator Akaka.

I appreciate the opportunity to be back before you. I want to con-

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00:14:442 sec.
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada

Thank you.

Mr. Argodale.

STATEMENT OF JOHN ARGODALE, DEPUTY ASSISTANT

SECRETARY OF THE ARMY FOR FINANCIAL OPERATIONS

00:14:464 min.
Argodale, John - Deputy Assistant Secretary

Chairman Ensign, Senator Akaka, my name is

John Argodale and I’m the Deputy Assistant Secretary of the Army

for Financial Operations. Thank...

00:18:542 sec.
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada

Mr. Wennergren?

STATEMENT OF DAVID M. WENNERGREN, CHIEF

INFORMATION OFFICER, DEPARTMENT OF THE NAVY

00:18:563 min.
Wennergren, David M. - Chief Information Officer

Good morning, Mr. Chairman and Senator

Akaka. Thank you very much for the opportunity to appear before

you today.

I come to you today...

00:22:292 sec.
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada

Mr. Vonglis?

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STATEMENT...

00:22:314 min.
Vonglis, John G. - Principal Dep. Asst. Secretary

Thank you, Mr. Chairman and Senator Akaka. I

am honored to sit before you to share successes and to update you

on our progress towards business...

00:26:572 min.
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada

I want to thank all of you for your testimony

and I don’t want to take away anything personal against any one

of you that is here today,...

00:29:181 min.
Argodale, John - Deputy Assistant Secretary

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We’ve done some significant

things over the years to align with the changes that have

been made at OSD.

First,...

00:30:596 sec.
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada

I know the military’s famous for acronyms, but

try to stay away from them, thank you.

00:31:0513 sec.
Argodale, John - Deputy Assistant Secretary

Okay. I think we’ve accomplished quite a bit in

terms of realigning our organizational structure ensuring the right

level of focus on these...

00:31:182 min.
Wennergren, David M. - Chief Information Officer

Sir, we’ve taken a number of steps as well.

We have aligned our information management/information technology

governing structure within...

00:33:241 sec.
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada

Mr. Vonglis?

00:33:251 min.
Vonglis, John G. - Principal Dep. Asst. Secretary

Senator, just going back a little bit to my opening

statement, I think the single most important thing that we’ve done

in the Air Force...

00:34:4917 sec.
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada

Mr. Walker, can you give an analysis just of the

previous three answers, just from GAO’s perspective on how the

Services are doing compared...

00:35:062 min.
Walker, David M. - Comptroller General

I clearly think that progress is being made in many

different areas within the DOD, but to differing degrees. I think as

my testimony outlines,...

00:37:323 min.
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada

I’ll end with this and then I’ll turn it over to

Senator Akaka.

I want to applaud the work that is being done. I

think that all of...

00:41:023 min.
Akaka, Daniel K. - U.S. Senator, [D] Hawaii

Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I must

really commend you and what you’re doing here to help our country

save money as well as to try...

00:44:351 min.
Argodale, John - Deputy Assistant Secretary

Senator Akaka, I would tell you that the Army’s

architectures are maturing, they’re not at a finished state yet, but

I will also tell you...

00:46:0160 sec.
Wennergren, David M. - Chief Information Officer

Senator Akaka, we too continue to mature

and refine our architecture efforts. Our functional managers have

laid out the taxonomies and paths...

00:47:011 sec.
Akaka, Daniel K. - U.S. Senator, [D] Hawaii

Mr. Vonglis?

00:47:021 min.
Vonglis, John G. - Principal Dep. Asst. Secretary

Senator, technically yes, it is accurate; however, in

terms of one minor clarification, in terms of full and partial systems

we’re looking...

00:48:2315 sec.
Akaka, Daniel K. - U.S. Senator, [D] Hawaii

I take it, Mr. Wennergren and Mr. Argodale,

that you agree that the Comptroller General’s assessment was correct?

00:48:383 sec.
Argodale, John - Deputy Assistant Secretary

Correct.

00:48:412 min.
Akaka, Daniel K. - U.S. Senator, [D] Hawaii

I want to also at this point tell you that I agree

with the chairman that I’m glad you’re here, however, I am unhappy

with the level of...

00:51:391 min.
Walker, David M. - Comptroller General

Senator Akaka, this is an issue that we’re doing

additional work on right now. I think we’ll be in a better position

to be able to report...

00:53:3524 sec.
Akaka, Daniel K. - U.S. Senator, [D] Hawaii

Thank you very much for your response. The

problem here as I see it from way out here and as pointed out,

when you mention a number of systems...

00:53:594 sec.
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada

Senator Thune.

00:54:031 min.
Thune, John R. - U.S. Senator, [R] South Dakota

Thank you, Mr. Chairman, I appreciate your

holding this hearing and I want to thank the panel for appearing

today and just indicate as well...

00:55:5627 sec.
Vonglis, John G. - Principal Dep. Asst. Secretary

Thank you, Senator, and thank you for your support

and I appreciate all your kind comments. ECSS is progressing

very well. As a matter of...

00:56:239 sec.
Thune, John R. - U.S. Senator, [R] South Dakota

Is the system going to be integrated with other

systems to provide visibility of common parts that are used across

multiple services?

00:56:3237 sec.
Vonglis, John G. - Principal Dep. Asst. Secretary

It will be. Within the Air Force, absolutely. Obviously

there are pros and cons any time one undertakes an ERP,

you could have folks that...

00:57:0911 sec.
Thune, John R. - U.S. Senator, [R] South Dakota

Mr. Walker, has GAO’s work uncovered any new

business systems programs that need to be strongly considered for

termination?

00:57:2052 sec.
Walker, David M. - Comptroller General

There is absolutely no question that of the 3,000-

plus existing information systems, many should be killed. That’s

part of the purpose...

00:58:1260 sec.
Thune, John R. - U.S. Senator, [R] South Dakota

Mr. Chairman, again, I appreciate your holding

the hearing and I would add my support to your efforts to make

sure that we provide ongoing...

00:59:122 min.
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada

Thanks for participating today, Senator Thune.

First of all, Mr. Walker, to let you know obviously we have the

study from the Institute...

01:01:352 sec.
Vonglis, John G. - Principal Dep. Asst. Secretary

Thank you.

01:01:372 sec.
Wennergren, David M. - Chief Information Officer

Thank you.

01:01:393 sec.
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada

Do you have anything else, Senator Akaka, for

the hearing this morning?

01:01:422 min.
Akaka, Daniel K. - U.S. Senator, [D] Hawaii

Yes, Mr. Chairman, I too want to say that I’d

like to continue your efforts in this respect to pursue hearings on

financial management and...

01:03:4752 sec.
Walker, David M. - Comptroller General

We do not believe that all the requirements of that

legislation have been met. We believe that good faith efforts have

been taken. This...

01:04:3923 sec.
Akaka, Daniel K. - U.S. Senator, [D] Hawaii

Let me ask the Service witnesses whether you

agree with Mr. Walker’s assessment and also to ask you when can

we expect compliance with the...

01:05:021 min.
Argodale, John - Deputy Assistant Secretary

Senator, I agree that we’re making a good faith

effort to comply with the requirements of both section 2222 and

First of all, regarding...

01:06:2557 sec.
Wennergren, David M. - Chief Information Officer

I agree, sir. We are making a good-faith effort

and it is a process. We continue to improve the way we do oversight

development, and modernization...

01:07:2232 sec.
Vonglis, John G. - Principal Dep. Asst. Secretary

Senator, thank you for that insightful question. As

a matter of fact the Air Force has identified 511 systems. We’ve

shut down 16 of those...

01:07:5450 sec.
Akaka, Daniel K. - U.S. Senator, [D] Hawaii

I want to thank you for your responses. This is

a huge task. We’re moving in the right direction on this and look

forward to working with...

01:08:442 min.
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada

Thank you. This hearing is adjourned.

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