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Lamb, Brian - Host
Robert Darnton, whose idea was it to call this book "George Washington`s False Teeth"? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
I have to admit, it was my idea. Where I plucked that idea from, I can`t exactly say, but I`ve always been fascinated with Washington and his teeth.... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
Why? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Well, I asked him, you know, can you give me the straight dope about Washington and his teeth. Surely this must come up in dental schools. And he said,... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
Why not? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
OK. Dental student A says to dental student B, why does George look so pained on the dollar bill? Dental student B says it`s because of his wooden false... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
Why do we need to know this? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Well, why do we need to know anything about history? I mean, it`s a cosmic question. And my general answer is not to draw morals from the past, but... |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
So, I think if we can understand how the human condition was fundamentally different 200, 300, 400 years ago, it can give us perspective on the situation... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
How much of your life have you lived in the 18th century? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Well, I suppose my family would say most of it. I mean, I have been studying it since I arrived in Oxford as a graduate student in 1960. I have been... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
At one point in one of these articles in there, you slip in the fact that you are an atheist. Why did you tell your audience that? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Well, I don`t believe in general in talking about myself in my books. And I do think this is the first book I have ever used the first person singular.... |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
But he stopped me in the middle of the tour and he said to me, "Monsieur, vous-etes Protestant?" "Are you a Protestant?" And at that point, I didn`t... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
Has that affected -- I mean, how many atheists do you run into in this country, that will admit that they`re atheists? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Well, you know, I never ask people, are you an atheist or not. I felt the need to come clean at that point. I mean, otherwise I wouldn`t have mentioned... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
What was the Enlightenment? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Well, there is a big debate about it, and the way you phrased the question is exactly the way the question was phrased by Emmanuel Kant, (SPEAKING GERMAN).... |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
So, like most movements, it has origins, which go way back to antiquity, and in particular to the great philosophical systems of the 17th century, but... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
What years? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Well, he dies in 1715, but it`s the war of the -- there are a series of wars. The last one is the war of the Spanish succession. But from the 1690s... |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
The king dies in 1715. A regent takes over. He`s famous as a rake, the Duke d`Orleans. He liked to talk about his rouet (ph), that is men worthy of... |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
So, this media grew up and out of it and out of it and the life of the young Voltaire emerged something quite different, and that is what I would call... |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Out of this comes his first important book, not play, but ordinary non-fiction book, "The Lettres Philosophiques." It was published in 1734, and that`s... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
Did anybody in Europe live in a democracy in those years? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
No. There were so-called republics. For example, there was a Republic of Geneva and of Genoa. But what does it mean to be called a republic? The word... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
How many people were there in France, in Britain in those years? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Well, France, there`s a big debate now among demographers as to the size of the population, but I think most people would agree that by 1789, the population... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
Where did most of the people live in Europe, then? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Well, I mean, it varies from country to country. The population was densest in the Netherlands, what we call today the Netherlands, that is the northern... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
Now, you started your French, your understanding of French, the language itself what time in your life? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Well, I had French in junior high school, middle school as you call it now. I had a wonderful teacher of French, who was tough. Really, he was the first... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
Where was it? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
In Westport, Connecticut, where we were raised mostly. And then I had good French teachers throughout secondary school, arrived in college, where unfortunately,... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
Where? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
At Harvard. And then I went on to Oxford, and I mean, I -- I didn`t know exactly -- I knew I was going to be a newspaper reporter. I mean, that`s what... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
How long did the Enlightenment then last? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Well, it`s difficult to assign ends, final points to movements, just as it is to identify their beginnings. You know, some people would say the Enlightenment... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
Is that considered to be a part of the Enlightenment? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Oh, yes. |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
Then the Enlightenment wasn`t just French? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Absolutely not. Excuse me. I should have made that clearer. I see when I describe it as a movement, with a body of intellectuals committed to spreading... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
How much do we today owe to this period? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Well, we really, it seems to me, American political culture comes out of the Enlightenment. I know that there are other schools of interpretation and... |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
But still, the founding fathers, I think, were men who were steeped in Enlightenment thought, who had often -- the Scottish Enlightenment rather than... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
This book, "George Washington`s False Teeth," is what number for you? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
You know, I`m not sure, exactly. I have -- I haven`t counted. |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
Twenty? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Something like that, yes. |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
And you have been based where most of your professional life? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Well, I have spent my entire career at Princeton University. |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
Doing what? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Teaching European history, and then some specialized courses, for example, in history and anthropology as something that interests me a lot. There`s... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
When were the president of the American Historical Association? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
That was in 1999. |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
And what is it? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Well, the American Historical Association is quite an interesting organization, located not far from your studio, actually. It represents the history... |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
It`s an attempt to first of all defend interests of people doing history. And that`s -- it`s not lobbying in some crude sense of the word, but suppose... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
How big is it in membership? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
You know, I forget the exact number now. |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
Thousands? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Oh, many thousands, yes. I should have the exact number in mind, but since I ceased being president, I have lost track of the day-to- day membership.... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
I asked you today when I first met you if you were John Darnton`s brother. I don`t know your brother. It turns out that you are his brother, but the... |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Well, I could say three months, which would be the short answer to what you said. That is I joined the staff permanently as a reporter in the city room... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
How long has he been there? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Oh, he must have been there -- the exact number of years, I don`t know, but he joined "The Times" about 1967, `66. |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
You also told me that your daughter, Kate, who is an editor at "Public Affairs" has been in this business now for a couple of years. |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Yes. |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
The reason I mention all this is it started in Westport, Connecticut, from what kind of a family? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Well, from a journalistic family. My father was a reporter for "The New York Times," and he was killed in the war. My mother then took over and joined... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
What was her name? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Eleanor Darnton. She became women`s editor for "The Times," and then left and created a news service for women, actually, which went bust. And so we... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
The reason we`re mentioning this, what is the start? I mean, you could go across this country and find people that have idea what "The New York Times"... |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Yes. |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
I mean, what is -- as I`ve read this, I`m not a French speaker, but as I read it, that was my first battle, was understanding, because you use a lot... |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
I think the interest in books and journalism and the way information penetrates into society is for me central. A lot of this book is actually about... |
| 00:30:294 sec. |
Lamb, Brian - Host
But where did you go for the 18th century police files? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
There is something called La Prefecture de la Police, so that`s a section where there are some archives. But the great archives are those in the Bastille.... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
Why was he doing this? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
A good question. He doesn`t say. I mean, I found his files and I`m going to publish them all, because it`s like a who`s who of French literature around... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
By the way, define dossier. What is that in your... |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
A file. |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
A file? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Yes. |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
Were these thick files or just one page? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Well, I`m glad you asked, because a lot of historical research, people don`t understand the physicality of it, what`s involved. So if you like, I could... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
Let me just step back for just a second. You spent how long in these archives? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Well, I have been in many different archives. |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
But the ones we are talking about, were they in Paris? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Sure. |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
The main one with... |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
With ….. |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
With the 500 files? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Yes. |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
If you didn`t speak French? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Forget it. |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
Couldn`t go in, couldn`t get access? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
No. I mean, language is a tool for historians. |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
So you couldn`t afford to have an interpreter sitting there with you? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
No, no, no, no, no. |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
So that`s the first thing. You had to... |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
You have to really know the language and you have to know the 18th century version of French. Now, it so happens that 18th century French is very pure,... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
Well, what would a day have been like for you in the -- looking at these files? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
OK. Well... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
Where -- physically, where are they in Paris? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Well, let`s say -- the most common collection, the greatest collection is in the National Archives. And so, I get in the subway and I get out and I... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
Can you tell whether anybody has been in there, besides you? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Sometimes you can. Sometimes people leave -- they forget and they leave little chunks of index cards or whatever. |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
What I`m getting at is is there a time when you have got this and it`s the first time anybody has ever... |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Oh, yeah, normally that`s the case. |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
In 250 years? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Yes. And it`s a thrilling sensation. I mean, I cannot describe to you how interesting it is. Because you don`t know what`s in those letters. You have... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
How long of a day would you have? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Well, it depends on the archives, but usually they open at 9:00, they close at 5:00 or 6:00, and then, well, what could you do but have a nice meal... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
But I want to quote back to you what you wrote. You said this book is written for the general, educated reader? (CROSSTALK) |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
How much education do you have to have? In other words, here, I said -- I don`t speak French and I found myself running into French all the time in... |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
I would think that anyone who has a high school degree should be able to read this book and enjoy it. I mean, it was written with that in mind. Certainly,... |
| 00:39:0818 sec. |
Lamb, Brian - Host
You have eight chapters, and each chapter is from a different time, an article or whatever. I want to go through them just very quickly, because we... |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
That is an attempt to explore the circuits of communication that actually existed in mid-18th century France, and also to indicate what the news itself... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
That`s a long, that`s your longest chapter, 50 pages, but where did you do this? Where was your original presentation? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
That actually is something that I was fascinated with for at least 30 years. And so, I found that in order to bring all the pieces together, I drew... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
But you say, originally given as an annual presidential address. |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
That was part of my presidential address to the American Historical Association. So that was an important occasion and I tried to bring together material... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
Third chapter. The unity of Europe, culture and politeness. Where did you give this, originally? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Well, that actually was -- I was asked to write that by a German news magazine there, Spiegel. |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
Did you have to write it in German? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
No, I wrote it in English and they translated it into German. |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
I get a sense you speak German. |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Yes, sure. I don`t write it very well. German, academic German is hard-going for me. But I spent a lot of time in Germany, and so they knew me in this... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
You say Europe is a state of mind. You told the Europeans it was a state of mind? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Yes. |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
Is America a state of mind? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Well, I mean, what isn`t a state of mind? It`s not as if we have direct access to some reality that`s outside of our minds. It`s there, of course. But... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
What`s cosmopolitanism? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Well, cosmopolitan -- you know, I used the word cosmopolitanism the first time I ever was in Eastern Europe. And it was in, actually, in East Germany,... |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
A cosmopolitan in the 18th century is someone who certainly does not take the nation as the main unit with which he identifies himself or herself, but... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
A 1994 lecture in Tokyo. That`s your chapter four, the pursuit of happiness. |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Yes. |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
Voltaire and Jefferson. One of the things that caught my eye in that chapter was the reference to Jefferson possibly being a socialist, because he was... |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Yes. Well, I`m not arguing that he was possibly a socialist, but that if you look at the concept of happiness, the pursuit of happiness as opposed to... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
You scored one for George Mason in your piece, because why? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Well, I think that George Mason was a very intelligent person, who was central in the independence movement in Virginia even before the colonies got... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
Did you say a lot of the state constitutions had the pursuit of happiness in it? I can`t remember. I thought you might have... |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
I don`t think I did. I don`t know the answer to that question, but they have -- I think several of them do. |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
You said, maybe it`s something else, you said that the state constitutions, however, do, two-thirds of them have adopted some variant of Jefferson`s... |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
That`s right. In other words... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
So he didn`t invent the phrase, the idea of the pursuit of happiness? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
No. And he says in a letter, I think to Madison, this is the common sense that I`m delivering. He`s representing -- the American mind is another phrase... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
Who were you talking to in Tokyo in 1994 that wanted to hear about the pursuit of happiness? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Well, I was invited to talk about happiness by the Institute for Advanced Study that had just been created in Tokyo. And they decided they would have... |
| 00:47:444 sec. |
Lamb, Brian - Host
So, when you spoke in Tokyo, did you speak in English and did they listen through an interpreter? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Yes, they did. It was simultaneous interpretation. But it was one of the least successful lectures that I think I have ever given, because it was a... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
All Japanese? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
All Japanese. And I thought, you know, I tried to lighten things up with a few jokes. So, I told a joke. Everybody was like stone. I thought, I`m in... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
By the way, after World War II and we helped write their constitution, did we throw any words like happiness into their preamble? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
I don`t know. I don`t know. |
| 00:48:597 sec. |
Lamb, Brian - Host
Chapter five. This was Harper`s 1985. The great divide, Rousseau on the route to Vincennes (ph). |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Yes. |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
I assume you don`t pronounce it Vincennes (ph) in French. |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Sounds great to me. It`s Vincennes (ph). |
| 00:49:119 sec. |
Lamb, Brian - Host
Why did you think -- why did Harper`s think an audience wanted to hear about the great divide, Rousseau on the route to Vincennes (ph)? And where is... |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Well, Vincennes (ph) is now actually part of Paris, and it has a famous medieval dungeon, where Diderot, who for many people is the most sympathetic... |
| 00:50:2344 sec. |
Darnton, Robert - Professor
Now, why did Harper`s ask me to write about that? Well, they didn`t, exactly. They decided they would have a special issue about -- actually about gossip,... |
| 00:51:0715 sec. |
Lamb, Brian - Host
I have got to read this line to you. "It may seem strange that we mix flag waving and football, or that President Reagan should have synchronized his... |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
I`m getting at something that I would call an American political culture or even civil religion. It seems to me Americans are extraordinarily patriotic,... |
| 00:52:043 sec. |
Lamb, Brian - Host
Is it different at the European football, soccer? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Yes. Absolutely. |
| 00:52:082 sec. |
Lamb, Brian - Host
They do not have this nationalism? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
There`s nothing like it. No. They have lots of violence and riots and so on, but that`s the supporters of this team versus that team. |
| 00:52:161 sec. |
Lamb, Brian - Host
Where did ours come from, then? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Well, I think it came from -- it welled up from a kind of, for lack of a better word, civil religion. And that`s the key idea in Rousseau`s "Social... |
| 00:53:087 sec. |
Lamb, Brian - Host
The chapter six is the craze for America. Conderse (ph), and correct me if I`m mispronouncing this, and Brisot (ph)? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Yes. Well, that`s a chapter, is a question where did it come from or what is it about? It`s a chapter about the French infatuation with America in the... |
| 00:53:4960 sec. |
Darnton, Robert - Professor
And on almost -- in almost every issue you find an ad for a play about Americans, a new print about George Washington, letters about Lafayette, discussions... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
We only have a couple of minutes. I want to get all eight chapters in. The seventh is the pursuit of profit. |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Yes. |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
Rousseauism... |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Right. |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
... on the Bourse. |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
So the Bourse is the stock exchange in Paris. And there was a tremendous war between bulls and bears on the stock exchange in the 1780s. Now, you might... |
| 00:56:0422 sec. |
Lamb, Brian - Host
And finally, the skeletons in the closet, how historians play God. You talked a little bit about this earlier. Again, you say in -- you tell us that... |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
You know, I don`t think I ever discussed that with my own teachers. I mean, I`m not a militant atheist, like my daughters, for example, are good churchgoers,... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
Thirty seconds. I`d be interested, did you -- your attitudes about God, did they come from all the reading and all the investigation? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
No. Partly, but I -- I just never could get over the problem of evil. |
| 00:57:284 sec. |
Lamb, Brian - Host
Then how did your kids get into the believing side of it? |
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Darnton, Robert - Professor
Because they are independent spirits who think for themselves, and fortunately, don`t take any gaff from their father. So, I respect their opinions.... |
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Lamb, Brian - Host
We`re out of time. Our guest has been Robert Darnton. He`s a professor, 25 years, at Princeton. This is the book, "George Washington`s False Teeth:... |