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00:00:05 CURRICULUM.
00:00:06 SO, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WOULD SAY TO ME, HOLDING UP FRANCESA IS A MODEL IS VERY DANGEROUS BECAUSE YOU CAN DO THAT IN THE SUBURBS.
00:00:17 THAT'S FINE. LEAVE PLAYFULNESS AND WHIM AND JOY AND BRAHMS AND WOODY GUTHRIE AND GREAT BLACK FOLK MUSIC -- LEAVE HAPPINESS TO THE CHILDREN OF THE SUBURBS.
00:00:34 THESE BLACK KIDS DON'T NEED THAT.
00:00:38 WE NEED TO HAVE A REGIMENT TO PUMP THOSE TEST SCORES 3 PERCENTAGE POINTS TO SATISFY THE GOVERNMENT.
00:00:48 SO THAT IN A WAY IT'S WORSE NOW THAN IT WAS THEN.
00:00:52 IT'S PARALLEL.
00:00:53 IN BOSTON WHEN I WAS A YOUNG TEACHER, THERE WERE STANDARDS, TOO.
00:01:00 THERE WAS ACCOUNTABILITY, SAME THING.
00:01:02 I WAS NOT A REBEL AT ALL.
00:01:04 I WASN'T POLITICAL IN THE LEAST WHEN I STARTED TEACHING.
00:01:10 I WAS STIRRED BY MARTIN LUTHER KING AND BY THE DEATHS OF YOUNG CIVIL RIGHTS WORKERS IN THE SOUTH.
00:01:15 THAT'S WHY I BECAME A TEACHER.
00:01:23 BUT BASICALLY I JUST WANTED TO TEACH CHILDREN.
00:01:26 AND THEN MY FOURTH GRADE CLASS -- THIS WAS A TYPICAL ALL-BLACK CLASS, ALL-BLACK SCHOOL JUST AS WE HAVE TODAY.
00:01:37 AND THERE WAS NO -- THERE WAS NO BLACK MATERIAL IN THE CURRICULUM OF ANY SUBSTANCE.
00:01:42 EXCEPT FOR A FEW TOKENS, YOU KNOW?
00:01:47 EVERYBODY THE GEORGE WASHINGTON CARVER BECAUSE THE KIDS CALLED HIM THE PEANUT MAN.
00:01:58 HE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING CONTROVERSIAL.
00:02:00 BUT THERE WERE NO STORIES OR ANYTHING ABOUT BLACK KIDS.
00:02:06 SO ONE DAY JUST ON A IMPULSE, PURELY ON A IMPULSE WHEN I WAS IN HARVARD SQUARE, I WENT INTO OUR LOCAL -- I ALWAYS JOKE AND CALL IT OUR LOCAL COMMUNIST BOOKSTORE, THAT'S THE HARVARD COOK.
00:02:23 REMEMBER JOE McCARTHY SAID HARVARD WAS CRIMSON.
00:02:26 THAT'S A GOOD NAME FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE RED.
00:02:30 I PICKED UP A BRAND-NEW BOOK BY LANGSTON HUGHES.
00:02:34 PARTLY BECAUSE THE KIDS HADN'T SEEN A NEW BOOK.
00:02:37 KIDS USED TO SAY, EVERYTHING IS OLD AND RAGGEDY AND I BROUGHT IT IN AND EVEN BEFORE I OPENED THE BOOK, I HELD IT UP.
00:02:49 BY THE WAY, I HAD 35 KIDS IN MY CLASS.
00:02:53 IN A NIGHTMARISH BUILDING VERY MUCH LIKE TODAY.
00:02:55 THEY HAD A STRING OF SUBS BEFORE I WAS APPOINTED.
00:02:59 I WAS THEIR TWELFTH TEACHER THAT YEAR.
00:03:04 AND THEY'D BEEN RATHER HOSTILE TO ME AT FIRST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHY SHOULD THEY TRUST ME AFTER THEY'D BEEN ABANDONED 10 OR 12 TIMES ALREADY?
00:03:15 BUT SUDDENLY EVERYBODY WAS ON THE EDGE OF THEIR CHAIR AND I REMEMBER A LITTLE GIRL IN THE FRONT ROW WHISPERED TO THE GIRL IN FRONT OF HER, SHE SAID, LOOK, THAT MAN'S COLORED BECAUSE THERE'S A PICTURE OF HIM ON THE FRONT AND I READ A COUPLE OF POEMS TO THEM AND ONE GIRL IN THE BACK ROW, WHO HAD BEEN MOST HOSTILE TO ME, DISTANT, SORT OF -- A BEAUTIFUL FACE, CHISELED, AUSTERE, A BEAUTIFUL YOUNG WOMAN SMILED BUT COLD.
00:03:54 LOOKED AT ME WITH THAT LOOK IN MALCOLM X'S EYES WITH THAT FAMOUS LOOK AT HIM.
00:03:59 NEVER SMILED.
00:04:00 SHE SUDDENLY GOT UP AND CAME AROUND THE WHOLE ROOM, CAME UP AND TOUCHED MY SHOULDER VERY GENTLY, STROKED IT KIND OF THANKFULLY AND SHE WHISPERED, THANK YOU.
00:04:15 'CAUSE THEY'D NEVER HEARD A POEM BY A BLACK MAN BEFORE AND SHE SAID COULD I BRING THAT BOOK -- COULD I BRING THAT BOOK HOME AND SHOW IT TO MY MOM.
00:04:24 I WAS SO HAPPY.
00:04:25 I WOULD HAVE GIVEN HER MY CAR.
00:04:27 THE NEXT DAY SHE CAME IN AND SHE MEMORIZED ONE OF THE POEMS, THE GREAT FAMOUS POEM BALLAD, WHICH HAS THOSE FAMOUS LINES, WHAT HAPPENS TO A DREAM DEFERRED?
00:04:41 DOES IT -- DOES IT DRY UP LIKE A RAISIN IN THE SUN?
00:04:47 AND THE NEXT DAY I WAS FIRED.
00:04:50 I WAS FIRED FOR READING THAT AND OTHER POEMS OF LANGSTON HUGHES.
00:04:56 THEY HAD THIS LIST THAT JUST LIKE TODAY THAT SAID LANGSTON HUGHES WAS AN EIGHTH GRADE POET.
00:05:03 AND I'D READ HIM IN FOURTH GRADE SO THE FORMAL CHARGE AGAINST ME, IF I RECALL THIS WAS ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE "NEW YORK TIMES" BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE ASTONISHED.
00:05:21 THE CHARGE WAS CURRICULUM DEVIATION AND THE "BOSTON GLOBE," OUR LOCAL PAPER, OF COURSE, PLAYED WITH THIS.
00:05:29 AND THEIR HEADLINE WAS SOMETHING LIKE, RHODE SCHOLAR FIRED FROM FOURTH GRADE.
00:05:37 BUT IT DIDN'T HURT ME, YOU KNOW?
00:05:40 I GOT FIRED FOR CURRICULUM DEVIATION AND A COUPLE MONTHS LATER THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HIRED ME FOR CURRICULUM DEVELOPMENT.
00:05:52 WHITE PEOPLE CAN TAKE THESE RISKS.
00:05:56 MY HARVARD DEGREE WAS SORT OF LIKE MY AMERICAN EXPRESS GOLD CARD.
00:06:01 DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO YOU?
00:06:02 BUT IT DID POLITICIZE ME.
00:06:05 THEN I DID BECOME POLITICALLY ANGRY.
00:06:10 AND THE PARENTS OF MY KIDS WERE VERY LOYAL.
00:06:13 A LOT OF WHITE TEACHERS SAY TO ME, IF I STICK OUT MY NECK, DO YOU THINK BLACK PARENTS WILL SUPPORT ME?
00:06:21 AND I SAID, OF COURSE, THEY'LL SUPPORT YOU IF THEY THINK YOU'RE ON THEIR SIDE.
00:06:31 THEY'RE NOT STUPID.
00:06:33 IF THEY THINK YOU'RE FIGHTING FOR YOUR CHILD, THEY'RE LIKE ALL OTHER PARENTS.
00:06:36 SO THEY SHUT DOWN THE SCHOOL THE NEXT DAY.
00:06:39 AND THEN THEY SHUT DOWN THE WHOLE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
00:06:45 THEY ORGANIZED -- IT SORT OF -- WHAT'S THAT WORD, MUSHROOMED?
00:06:49 >> Host: UH-HUH.
00:06:51 >> Guest: AND THE BLACK LEADERS IN THE CITY SEIZED ON THIS.
00:06:55 THEY SAID, GOOD LORD, IF THE GREATEST BLACK AMERICAN POET IS FORBIDDEN IN THE FOURTH GRADE, ALONG WITH THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A TOTALLY SEGREGATED SYSTEM, A VICIOUSLY
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